Results 1 to 20 of 131

Thread: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

Hybrid View

  1. #1

    Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    *** JULY 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2020

    (*) Kaladesh
    (*) Aether Revolt

    (*) Mirrodin
    (*) Darksteel
    (*) Fifth Dawn

    Banned cards: Ancient Den, Great Furnace, Seat of the Synod, Skullclamp, Tree of Tales, Vault of Whispers

    *** ORIGINAL POST & PREVIOUS ROTATIONS BELOW THIS LINE ***
    I thought it'd be fun to have a thread for building and sharing Random Standard decks, and possibly for coordinating some friendly competition if there's enough interest.

    Each month I'll randomly generate a Random Standard card pool and update this thread with it. You're invited to theorize, share decks, challenge others, or contribute however you want. Because this is a Legacy site and we all like old cards, my algorithm has a bias towards older sets, as follows: Whenever I roll for a set or block, I roll the die twice and pick the older option. (For the February 2021 pool I happened to roll especially old sets, but on average it won't be like that.)

    I'll decide on bans and announce the banned cards in each format rotation. Ante cards and dexterity cards are always banned.

    *** FEBRUARY 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2015

    (*) Homelands

    (*) Ice Age
    (*) Alliances

    (*) Mercadian Masques
    (*) Nemesis
    (*) Prophecy

    Banned list:
    (*) Demonic Consultation
    (*) Necropotence
    (*) Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero

    *** MARCH 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    10th Edition

    Mirrodin
    Darksteel
    Fifth Dawn

    Zendikar
    Worldwake
    Rise of the Eldrazi

    BANNED:
    (*) Six cards with type “Artifact Land”:
    > Ancient Den
    > Seat of the Synod
    > Vault of Whispers
    > Great Furnace
    > Tree of Tales
    > Darksteel Citadel
    (*) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    (*) Skullclamp
    (*) Stoneforge Mystic

    *** APRIL 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2011 (M11)

    (*) Mirage
    (*) Visions
    (*) Weatherlight

    (*) Odyssey
    (*) Torment
    (*) Judgment

    Banned cards: Entomb, Vampiric Tutor

    *** MAY 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Sixth Edition

    (*) Ravnica: City of Guilds
    (*) Guildpact
    (*) Dissension

    (*) Return to Ravnica
    (*) Gatecrash
    (*) NOT Dragon's Maze (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned: Flash, Vampiric Tutor

    *** JUNE 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Fifth Edition

    (*) Champions of Kamigawa
    (*) Betrayers of Kamigawa
    (*) Saviors of Kamigawa

    (*) Mercadian Masques
    (*) Nemesis
    (*) NOT Prophecy (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned: Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero, Necropotence, Umezawa's Jitte

    *** JULY 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Fourth Edition

    (*) Fallen Empires

    (*) Odyssey
    (*) Torment
    (*) Judgment

    (*) Mirrodin
    (*) NOT Darksteel (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)
    (*) NOT Fifth Dawn (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned cards: Balance, Channel, Entomb, Mana Vault, Mind Twist, Strip Mine; six cards with the Artifact Land card type (Darksteel Citadel, Ancient Den, Seat of the Synod, Vault of Whispers, Great Furnace, Tree of Tales)

    *** AUGUST 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Tenth Edition

    (*) Urza's Saga
    (*) Urza's Legacy
    (*) Urza's Destiny

    (*) Time Spiral (including Timeshifted cards)
    (*) NOT Planar Chaos (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)
    (*) NOT Future Sight (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned are the following cards:
    Gaea's Cradle
    Grim Monolith
    Fluctuator
    Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
    Tinker
    Time Spiral
    Tolarian Academy
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Yawgmoth's Will

    *** SEPTEMBER 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Classic Sixth Edition

    (*) Onslaught
    (*) Legions
    (*) Scourge

    (*) Theros (the original one)
    (*) Born of the Gods
    (*) NOT Journey into Nyx (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned cards:
    Flash
    Vampiric Tutor

    *** OCTOBER 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic Origins

    (*) Battle for Zendikar
    (*) Oath of the Gatewatch

    (*) Champions of Kamigawa
    (*) Betrayers of Kamigawa
    (*) NOT Saviors of Kamigawa (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned: Umezawa's Jitte

    *** NOVEMBER 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Seventh Edition

    (*) Mercadian Masques
    (*) Nemesis
    (*) Prophecy

    (*) Return to Ravnica
    (*) Gatecrash
    (*) NOT Dragon’s Maze (in this randomly generated timeline, it has not yet been released)

    Banned: Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero

    *** DECEMBER 2021 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Revised Edition

    (*) Urza's Saga
    (*) Urza's Legacy
    (*) Urza's Destiny

    (*) Mirage
    (*) Visions
    (*) Weatherlight

    Banned cards:
    Balance
    Channel
    Demonic Tutor​
    Gaea's Cradle
    Grim Monolith
    Fluctuator
    Mana Vault
    Mind Twist
    Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
    Sol Ring
    Tinker
    Time Spiral
    Tolarian Academy
    Vampiric Tutor
    Wheel of Fortune
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Yawgmoth's Will

    *** JANUARY 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Tenth Edition

    (*) Ice Age
    (*) Homelands
    (*) Alliances

    (*) Odyssey
    (*) Torment
    (*) Judgment

    Banned cards:
    Demonic Consultation
    Necropotence

    *** FEBRUARY 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2012

    (*) Tempest
    (*) Stronghold
    (*) Exodus

    (*) Amonkhet
    (*) Hour of Devastation

    *** MARCH 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2011

    (*) Innistrad
    (*) Dark Ascension
    (*) Avacyn Restored

    (*) Strixhaven

    (*) Return to Ravnica

    *** APRIL 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Revised Edition

    (*) Mercadian Masques
    (*) Nemesis
    (*) Prophecy

    (*) Onslaught
    (*) Legions
    (*) Scourge

    Banned:
    Ancestral Recall
    Balance
    Black Lotus
    Channel
    Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero
    Mana Vault
    Mind Twist
    Mox Emerald
    Mox Jet
    Mox Pearl
    Mox Ruby
    Mox Sapphire
    Sol Ring
    Time Vault
    Time Walk
    Timetwister

    *** MAY 2022 RANDOM STANDARD @ THE SOURCE ***

    (*) Magic 2012

    (*) Khans of Tarkir
    (*) Fate Reforged
    (*) Dragons of Tarkir

    (*) Adventures in the Forgotten Realms

    (*) Streets of New Capenna
    Last edited by BirdsOfParadise; 07-21-2022 at 07:54 PM.

  2. #2

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    I guess Counter-Rebels would be something like this. Would it be tier 0 in a world without Necropotence? I based it on this list:
    https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9171&d=252469&f=ST

    My Random Standard version loses FoF and wrath effects but gains FoW and StP.


    4 Adarkar Wastes
    4 Evolving Wilds
    9 Island
    7 Plains
    [2 more lands]

    4 Force of Will

    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ramosian Sergeant
    4 Swords to Plowshares

    3 Defiant Falcon

    2 Memory Lapse
    3 Counterspell

    3 Defiant Vanguard

    1 Ramosian Commander

    1 Ramosian Sky Marshal

    1 Jhovall Queen
    [4 more spells --- likely blue for FoW]

  3. #3
    The green Ancestral
    ESG's Avatar
    Join Date

    Mar 2010
    Location

    Seattle, WA
    Posts

    1,308

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    Hey. Cool deck-building challenge. Here's my entry for those sets:

    4 Sulferous Springs
    4 Evolving Wilds
    3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    6 Mountain
    4 Swamp
    1 Lake of the Dead

    3 Barbed Sextant
    1 Rogue's Gloves
    4 Sign in Blood
    4 Incinerate
    4 Lightning Strike
    2 Lava Flow
    2 Stoke the Flames
    2 Circle of Flame
    4 Knight of Stromgald
    4 Goblin Rabblemaster
    4 Necrogen Scudder
    2 Chandra, Pyromaster
    2 Ob Nixilis, Unshackled

  4. #4

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    Cool, ESG! Rabblemaster is a nasty threat. Any red deck can sideboard Brutal Suppression if rebels are a thing.

    Idea: First Response plus painlands = two 1/1s every turn cycle. Painlands have almost no deckbuilding cost. Is a 4-mana enchantment that makes two 1/1s per turn good?

  5. #5
    Member

    Join Date

    Sep 2011
    Posts

    4,806

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    I think Rebels would be dead without Lin Sivvi. She's the main reason to play Rebels.

    Instead, for the memes, I submit Pirate Stompy


    //Lands: 22
    4 Rishadan Port
    4 Saprazzan Skerry
    2 Sandstone Needle
    12 Snow-Covered Island

    //Spells: 16
    4 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Portent
    4 Daze

    //Prison: 9
    2 Overburden
    3 Rhystic Study
    4 Parallax Tide

    //Creatures: 14
    4 Illusory Angel
    2 Rishadan Airship
    2 Giant Oyster
    3 Rishadan Footpad
    3 Rishadan Brigand


    Basically early game you try to catch them tapped out with Daze and Pirates. Then later you manascrew them with Parallax Tide so they still get disrupted by Daze and Pirates.

    Edit: Illusory Angel seems like an insane clock next to 8 cantrips
    Rhystic Study is probably a better 3-mana tax than Cutpurse, and Overburden should do a better job than Tangle Wire of handling decks that just try to ramp out a lot of lands. Overburden also lets you reuse the depletion lands for value.

    Another option is to splash white for Parallax Wave to both control enemy creatures and blink Pirates for value.
    Last edited by FTW; 02-04-2021 at 05:30 AM.

  6. #6
    Member

    Join Date

    Sep 2011
    Posts

    4,806

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdsOfParadise View Post
    Idea: First Response plus painlands = two 1/1s every turn cycle. Painlands have almost no deckbuilding cost. Is a 4-mana enchantment that makes two 1/1s per turn good?
    The best ways I could think of to abuse tokens were Death Pit Offering and Hecatomb.
    Either a 3/3 engine or Hecatomb should be insane card advantage once online.

    It may not be good for more than memes, but there are at least ways to tutor and accelerate into it to help lose to the FoW decks.

    HAXatomb


    //Lands: 24
    4 Remote Farm
    4 Caves of Koilos
    4 Evolving Wilds
    3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    1 Snow-Covered Plains
    8 Snow-Covered Swamp

    //Spells: 16
    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Vendetta
    4 Sign in Blood
    2 Unmask

    //Planeswalkers: 2
    2 Liliana Vess

    //Creatures: 8
    4 Divining Witch
    4 Sengir Autocrat

    //Enchantments: 10
    3 Hecatomb
    3 Death Pit Offering
    4 First Response

    //Rough Sideboard: 15
    3 Massacre
    2 Unmask
    2 Parallax Nexus
    2 Seal of Cleansing
    2 Disenchant
    3 Tormod's Crypt


    Dark Ritual lets you play a 4 mana enchantment on turn 2
    Remote Farm lets you play a 4 mana enchantment on turn 3 and another on turn 4

    This format secretly has both Demonic Consultations and only 1 of them is banned. Liliana can also do a Vamp Tutor impersonation.

    Urborg makes all your lands into Swamps for Hecatomb madness.

    Turn 2 Dark Ritual + Sengir Autocrat allows turn 3 Hecatomb

    Death Pit makes First Response make 3/3s and turns Autocrat into 10-power for 4 mana (4/4 + three 2/3s).

    Unmask and Divining Witch's pitch costs let you play around the drawback of having dead Hecatombs in hand early game.

  7. #7

    Re: Random Standard @ The Source 2021

    >>> Pirates
    I've only ever played a handful games of Random Standard. It was several years ago, and Masques was in that pool too. The Pirate deck just wrecked me.

    I wonder if one could fit red in there for Goblin Rabblemaster. It would weaken the Dazes (since you'd need 4x Shivan Reef), but it's such a good threat when the opponent is tripping over their own feet trying not to tap out.

    >>> BW token nonsense
    Nice :-)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)