Inspired by the conspiracy theorist discussion I took a crack at this card. I posted two general ideas in there but after thinking it through more I think this list might be the better direction.
The core of the deck is Conspiracy Theorist + Artificer's Intuition. This lets you get a bunch of baubles as the floor. If you find torpor orb too, you can dump 4 dreadnaughts onto the field. You can search up grindstone or one of the toolbox options.
4 Artificer's Intuition
4 Conspiracy Theorist
2 Riddlesmith
2 Ethersworn Canonist
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Painter's Servant
2 Grindstone
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Mishra's Bauble
4 Torpor Orb
1 Illusionary Mask
2 Stifle
2 Mother of Runes
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Hope of Ghirapur
1 Mox Opal
4 ancient tomb
2 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
1 Plateau
3 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Great Furnace
SB
1 Pithing Needle
3 surgical extraction
1 Red Elemental Blast
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Forked Bolt
3 Meddling Mage
2 Rip Apart
Imho, the deck could work better if we cut some combo and focus on just one.
Right now tbh, i would not play dreadnought (despite loving it), it's way to easy to handle for most decks.
// 60 Maindeck
// 7 Artifact
1 Grindstone
1 Pithing Needle
3 Arcum's Astrolabe
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
// 8 Creature
3 Painter's Servant
2 Snapcaster Mage
3 Goblin Welder
// 3 Enchantment
2 Artificer's Intuition
1 Sylvan Library
// 17 Instant
4 Brainstorm
3 Pyroblast
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Spell Pierce
// 18 Land
1 Academy Ruins
2 Volcanic Island
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Snow-Covered Mountain
3 Snow-Covered Island
2 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Snow-Covered Forest
// 3 Planeswalker
3 Oko, Thief of Crowns
// 4 Sorcery
4 Ponder
// 15 Sideboard
// 4 Artifact
SB: 1 Aether Spellbomb
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 1 Welding Jar
SB: 1 Relic of Progenitus
// 4 Creature
SB: 3 Izzet Staticaster
SB: 1 Grim Lavamancer
// 7 Instant
SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 1 Abrade
SB: 2 Return to Nature
SB: 2 Veil of Summer
This was my last list, featuring 2 banned cards (astrolabe was nuts with intu)
Welder seems quite amazing, we could consider to use intu+theorist to discard fat artifacts aswell (Wurmcoil?) and then reanimate them
I think we should have clear in mind play patterns to justify the cospiracy dude
Dack fayden could be very good here
Ill try to list something later
"You either die a Onesto-Player, or live long enough to see yourself become a Dredger"
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ka-AstroNought
They banned Astrolabe, and with it any reason to play Dreadnought with Welder stuffs unfortunately. One rule that should be observed in legacy is that when you go for a do-nothing artifact that gets worse in multiples [looking at Torpor Orb], is that you put 1x in SB and start adding Karn to maindeck. The first list would just die to Surgical on Dreadnought by flooding out on enablers with nothing to enable.
Particularly in the context of Welder, Conspiracy Theorist is far worse than Magmatic Chaneller. Don't lose your low stats value engine to combat if you don't have to.
We got a sweet new card in containment construct! https://mythicspoiler.com/neo/cards/...tconstruct.jpg
Also don't think I posted the video of Julian streaming this.
https://youtu.be/ZiH68e8NJEc
On Twitter a kill with just artificers intuition, the construct, and blue mana was posted.
https://twitter.com/monkeyscantcry/s...61086066896902
Draft deck:
//Lands: 16
2 Urza's Saga
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Seat of the Synod
6 Island
//Creatures: 9
4 Containment Construct
4 Emry, Lurker of the Loch
1 Walking Ballista
//Enchantments: 4
4 Artificer's Intuition
//Spells: 4
4 Echo of Eons
//Artifacts: 19
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Mox Opal
3 Mishra's Bauble
3 Defense Grid
1 Elixir of Immortality
//Planeswalkers: 8
4 Narset, Parter of Veils
4 Karn, the Great Creator
//Sideboard: 15
1 Mycosynth Lattice
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Liquimetal Coating
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
1 Aether Spellbomb
1 Hope of Ghirapur
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Walking Ballista
4 Force of Will
2 Force of Negation
Maybe even -4 Karn +4 Chalice
Edit: CC is very strong with Lion's Eye Diamond because it lets you use LED mana to pay for any spell.
CC also means Gamble doesn't miss (even if you discard the card, you can cast it).
Maybe this would work even better in a UR Echo Storm shell. Faithless Looting fits as well. By Echo Storm I mean then general shell of
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Mox Opal
4 Gamble
4 Brainstorm
4 Echo of Eons (or 3 Echo + 4 Burning Wish + 4th Echo in SB)
Last edited by FTW; 02-07-2022 at 08:27 PM.
If you want to go all in breakthrough could be fun. Conspiracy theorist also gives you redundancy
True, you could play all 8 effects. I'll focus on that here and move the other idea (without Conspiracy Theorist) to the other thread.
//Creatures: 9
4 Containment Construct
4 Conspiracy Theorist
1 Walking Ballista
//Enchantments: 4
4 Artificer's Intuition
//Spells: 12
4 Gamble
4 Faithless Looting
4 Echo of Eons
//Artifacts: 18
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Mox Opal
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Pithing Needle
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Defense Grid
//Lands: 17
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Volcanic Island
4 Silverbluff Bridge
2 Seat of the Synod
1 Great Furnace
2 Urza's Saga
A version with Breakthrough and without the Artificer's Intuition cheese got 7th place in Sunday's Challenge
https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...decks_th_place
//Lands: 10
4 Urza's Saga
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Island
1 Mountain
//Artifacts: 27
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Chrome Mox
4 Mox Opal
4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Urza's Bauble
3 Defense Grid
//Spells: 13
3 Gamble
3 Breakthrough
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Brain Freeze
1 Grapeshot
4 Echo of Eons
//Creatures: 9
1 Bomat Courier
4 Containment Construct
4 Riddlesmith
//Planeswalker: 1
1 Karn, the Great Creator
//Sideboard: 15
1 Karn, the Great Creator
1 Mycosynth Lattice
1 Liquimetal Coating
1 Mystic Forge
1 Defense Grid
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Malevolent Hermit
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Monastery Mentor
This should be the new Cheeri0s.
I like the Mentor SB plan and Karn into Forge.
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