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    Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Have really been loving adding Dressnought to UR Delver…

    4 Stifle
    4 Dress Down
    4 Wasteland
    3 Dreadnought
    4 Ragavan
    4 DRC
    4 Murktide
    2 Bauble
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Expressive
    4 FoW
    3 Daze
    2 Spikefield
    14 Fetch/Blue Lands

    Feels bad adding a 12/12 trampler to an already broken deck.

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    Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    If you have a Ragavan in play that can't attack, you could also have a *full* hand of 3 other Ragavan and Dreadnoughts. These cards are not played together for this reason. Can't create decks with full hands that can't do anything - this source of variance is eliminated by responsible deckbuilding.

    It's similar to how DHA was never played with Standstill, b/c the mechanics don't play well together.

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    Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    I suppose they could be played as 3 ofs. DRC helps us with filtering draws too. Its similar to Brainstorm but in Red (comparable to Spyro in Modern) that allows us to avoid dead cards.

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    Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    I suppose they could be played as 3 ofs. DRC helps us with filtering draws too. Its similar to Brainstorm but in Red (comparable to Spyro in Modern) that allows us to avoid dead cards.
    Yes DRC is an ideal card for UR Dreadstill, where we play 2x Saga and have option for 1-card delirium (enchant land finds artifact creature). You also get to go DRC into Standstill -> trigger to mill towards land drop #3...and unlike Delver, it is better with enchantments and does not suffer from diminishing returns if played at 2 and 3 copies (it's good all game).

    What your deck has is the Lotus Petal exploit which breaks 1 land per turn rule: Ragavan. It is this rule break that allows Expressive Iteration to find value [put land in exile and have land drop open] a full turn sooner than it should. This rule break is the key to the whole Daze and Wasteland without going down on mana exploit as well. Given that the best combo deck in legacy is Volc -> Ragavan -> Daze, why are you only on 3 Daze...and what exactly is Dreadnought doing here? Where is any interaction, particularly non-combat - where is Bolt? At some point you have to be able to not autolose to E-Bridge.

    Why are you playing normal legacy with improperly supported 12/12s? Why are you presenting them at sorcery speed into the Prismatic Ending & Plow meta? While it's fun to randomly dumpster DDFT simply by following Dreadnought's gameplan, it's not like UR Delver isn't already one of DDFT's worst matchups.

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    Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Why Bauble? Bauble is such a bad card. UR Delver runs it only to increase the number of card types available for Delirium. If you have Phyrexian Dreadnought and Dress Down, you already have self-sacrificing Artifacts and Enchantments.

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