[Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

[FTW]

That looks like a Fox build. For a whole bunch of design reasons from Lavamancer, Phyrexian Furnace, Spikefield Hazard, the 2nd Otawara, Shark Typhoon, SB Ashiok, SB Staticaster, SB Powder Keg, the (correct) basic-heavy manabase, only 2 Saga.

@Fox, is that your list? Did you donate it or guide the pilot?
Have you cut Standstill due to the unfavorable meta (bad vs Initiative & Saga & spell lands) and replaced it with Mycosynth?

[Fox]

That looks like a Fox build. For a whole bunch of design reasons from Lavamancer, Phyrexian Furnace, Spikefield Hazard, the 2nd Otawara, Shark Typhoon, SB Ashiok, SB Staticaster, SB Powder Keg, the (correct) basic-heavy manabase, only 2 Saga.

@Fox, is that your list? Did you donate it or guide the pilot?
Have you cut Standstill due to the unfavorable meta (bad vs Initiative & Saga & spell lands) and replaced it with Mycosynth?

This is my list, and I am the pilot. As stated above, this is a 4-1 into 5-0 and the VoDs are on my twitch. Standstill will come back in once people realize Mycosynth Gardens is a Dreadnought and LED-only card, and stop spamming Saga so much. The hype is dying down online and people are moving into their Tomb-spam phase; this will continue until they realize SnS will out-Tomb them. In the next week or two I'll add Standstill back into the deck with 2x Alpine Moon in the board. Until then it's like deciding to play Elves/Goblins right after the release of Plague Engi.

The CA is mostly covered by Currency Converter and Furnace, and the ability to copy them with Mycosynth. Standstill is unlikely to return as a 4x. The most likely slots to be cut are Brainstorm #4, DRC #4, Stifle #3, or Currency #2. When people Tomb, they Chalice - which is why we cut from the 1-drops.

At least for the moment, Delver decks are over-spamming Misstep; a practice that will speed up re-addition of Standstill...but I doubt they're going to be able to sustain this practice given how prevalent Tomb is.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I dont even know how to go about finding the optimal version of this list considering how many different ways dressnought can be built.

It's a brand new meta, we're going to see a lot of new sub optimal stuff show up and that's the process. Take what you like, kick out what you don't.

[FTW]

This is my list, and I am the pilot. As stated above, this is a 4-1 into 5-0 and the VoDs are on my twitch. Standstill will come back in once people realize Mycosynth Gardens is a Dreadnought and LED-only card, and stop spamming Saga so much. The hype is dying down online and people are moving into their Tomb-spam phase; this will continue until they realize SnS will out-Tomb them. In the next week or two I'll add Standstill back into the deck with 2x Alpine Moon in the board. Until then it's like deciding to play Elves/Goblins right after the release of Plague Engi.

The CA is mostly covered by Currency Converter and Furnace, and the ability to copy them with Mycosynth. Standstill is unlikely to return as a 4x. The most likely slots to be cut are Brainstorm #4, DRC #4, Stifle #3, or Currency #2. When people Tomb, they Chalice - which is why we cut from the 1-drops.

At least for the moment, Delver decks are over-spamming Misstep; a practice that will speed up re-addition of Standstill...but I doubt they're going to be able to sustain this practice given how prevalent Tomb is.

Nice result. 9-1! Sounds like it fits the current meta well.

When Standstill goes back in, is DRC really the cut? As long as Initiative and Saga are popular (it will decline but still see play), a turn 1 creature really helps Standstill. Even if 1 cmc is bad vs Chalice and Misstep. Keeping either DRC or Currency seems big to not have Standstill backfire or be dead.

[Fox]

Nice result. 9-1! Sounds like it fits the current meta well.

When Standstill goes back in, is DRC really the cut? As long as Initiative and Saga are popular (it will decline but still see play), a turn 1 creature really helps Standstill. Even if 1 cmc is bad vs Chalice and Misstep. Keeping either DRC or Currency seems big to not have Standstill backfire or be dead.

Currently testing Standstill in Brainstorm 4's and Currency 2's slots, since Mycosynth (and thus excessive Saga use) is dropping off. Something to keep in mind when adding Standstill is the blue count; kinda need to increase it if possible. As far as flooding goes, I'm not too worried about it with ~1% odds of 2x in opening hand vs odds on 6x Force effects. I do like having Standstill back in the deck with a Noxious as backup mode Vamp Tutor in the side. Shuffler today was closer to a realistic representation of how statistics work (second league). VoD is up with a 3-2 (no Standstill) and another 4-1 (with Standstill).

In leagues, expect to get Chalice'd, Moon'd, and removal spammed between lucky combo pairings. Very bad time to be playing with untrustworthy mana and no ability to get on board early. Also on the uptick are DnT and removal-based Depths (GW). Very poor choice to run 3c, even in combo-flooded leagues.