Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
How do you figure standstill is any good currently? The flash in threats like Endurance, Ice Fang, Hullbreacher etc and the prevalence of Urza’s Saga make this a singularly poor time to go all-in on Standstill.

Dreadnought is still a not well known and underplayed deck but the rare few occasions that I run into it on MTGO, its always one of the Dressnought lists.

...Thoughtseize is a must play...
The usual suspects in legacy have roughly 20 slots of land, 10 slots of cantrips, around 8 slots of counters, 8 slots of Ending/Plow. They have very little room to surprise Standstill with a wincon. Ragavan is getting banned, and they will pretty much all run to Saga or Uro. Both are soft to hate, and the more widely used they are, the more the Standstill deck benefits from packing hate.

Flash threats are of little concern, particularly out of opponents who routinely tap themselves out of said threats with sorceries.

Here's what happens when you run into a real Dreadnought deck: https://youtu.be/D-RcXkxAVJo. The only chance Stiflenought ever has is lucking out creating a meaningful fight over mana. If that fight doesn't materialize, they just lose b/c Daze is in their deck.

Thoughtseize is real bad in a fair/fairish deck. It is a lifeloss engine card is Shadow...which is a deck that only works in an environment with a falsely elevated amount of combo [legacy leagues].