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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I'd love to see an Uro deck refuse to cast its Uro. Pay 5 for it, also I'll draw one with you.
    It costs 5 to cast and 6 to Escape. Probably one of the better uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    It costs 5 to cast and 6 to Escape. Probably one of the better uses.
    The question is if that's worth it.
    Against combo there's better hate and so is for slower decks.
    It is flexible and cheap though.

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    Doesn't have ward and has a worse body.
    Green also has Endurance so no need for anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I think Ward is the big difference here. Having some protection, or at least card disadvantage tied to removing it is a huge buff.

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    You're comparing Questing Beasts to Reality Smashers

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    You're comparing Questing Beasts to Reality Smashers
    I mean we've seen the a number of almost-DRS on police mode cards printed. The simple fact is this: the police mode never makes the cut when it costs 3x as much as DRS. It's pretty annoying that at any point in the last few years since the ban they could have just reprinted DRS and said same card, only you don't get mana from eating lands...

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H



    The double color mana requirement probably kills this as it can't be even flashed back with LED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    This card is actually close to being maindeckable lifegain in UW strategies. The loss of hand size ofc kills it when combined with the fact that the best card to discard would be Uro (meaning you don't need the lifegain). At a baseline non-green UW decks are always looking for gain 2-4 life on a legacy playable.

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

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    The double color mana requirement probably kills this as it can't be even flashed back with LED.
    The fact that LED doesn't just pay for this and the fact that it costs 2 are the only downsides to this compared with Faithless Looting. Helps dodge Surgical Extraction, grinds, pitches to Force of Will. I'd try it in Dredge for sure, maybe other stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I mean we've seen the a number of almost-DRS on police mode cards printed. The simple fact is this: the police mode never makes the cut when it costs 3x as much as DRS. It's pretty annoying that at any point in the last few years since the ban they could have just reprinted DRS and said same card, only you don't get mana from eating lands...
    The card you're mentioning, which I can't figure out had to do with my post, is just grim lavamancer

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    The card you're mentioning, which I can't figure out had to do with my post, is just grim lavamancer
    You were comparing 3 mana DRS-werewolf to Deathgorge Scavenger, when saying Smasher vs Qbest right?

    On Lavamancer, this only works when they remake it in Time Spiral 4 where it's the same card, except you can only eat opponent's GY to shock.

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    Pretty bad but I'll admit it made me snicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    You were comparing 3 mana DRS-werewolf to Deathgorge Scavenger, when saying Smasher vs Qbest right?

    On Lavamancer, this only works when they remake it in Time Spiral 4 where it's the same card, except you can only eat opponent's GY to shock.
    Wait, you think Graveyard Trespasser is a DRS

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    I am a little surprised that Grim Lavamancer hasn't been expressly power-crept yet. Red was famously bad in Odyssey Block, yet this Shockey Boi stood out as being fairly exceptional, it even earned a spot in UR Fish in the early 00's. Weird that we haven't seen a juiced version of this guy yet.
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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Wait, you think Graveyard Trespasser is a DRS
    It is the DRS yard police-lookalike effect they are heavily relying on to justify an unplayably overcosted card, yes. Put you hand over the DRS-looking text - is the card playable at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    It is the DRS yard police-lookalike effect they are heavily relying on to justify an unplayably overcosted card, yes. Put you hand over the DRS-looking text - is the card playable at all.
    These cards are not in any way comparable.

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    These cards are not in any way comparable.
    Oh it's exactly what they're trying to recapture. Otherwise this is just an under-stat'd, over-costed vanilla beater. Just another in a long line of loses to Goyf, Uro, Strix-type, Decay, etc & also generally will lose to Endurance and Reclaimer as well...all while rewarding people for playing Daze.

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    Pretty bad but I'll admit it made me snicker.
    Due to the lack of better discussions I want to point out that this card will crash the meme economy.
    Not only can you create rare Pepes from normal cards but also mythic rare Pepes!
    Imagine the completely serious and competitive kitchen table F4A commander rounds that will be turned into shitposts.

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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    I predict the combo piece for Croaking Counterpart will be printed in Crimson Vow

    ****
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    Frogs you control get +5/+5 and hexproof.

    Frogs you control can only be blocked by creatures with frogreach.

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    Also, they will intentionally never print the ability frogreach.
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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Also, they will intentionally never print the ability frogreach.
    Have any other cards been given creature type reach besides dragonreach? This is the only one I found


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    Re: Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf H

    It's going to be "frogtouch" and it will turn creatures delt damage by it into frogs.

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