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    Re: Kamigawa Neon Destiny - A victory lap around Netrunner

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    I guess we could make up a bunch of strawman board states to illustrate why either card is superior but I'm not really interested in that, they just literally work differently and there's not much basis for comparison.
    No matter what you're talking about a boardstate with 2 blue sources tapping down and 5 artifacts in play to live the dream. That feels like a board that could have been casting Reverse Engineer since 2017.

    Doesn't make much sense that people would never touch Artifact'y Ancestral, but would be all over Artifact'y Dig. It does make sense however that Echo/LED is in a league above either of these however.

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    No matter what you're talking about a boardstate with 2 blue sources tapping down and 5 artifacts in play to live the dream. That feels like a board that could have been casting Reverse Engineer since 2017.

    Doesn't make much sense that people would never touch Artifact'y Ancestral, but would be all over Artifact'y Dig. It does make sense however that Echo/LED is in a league above either of these however.
    They're still too different to compare. If we forget about whatever weird board state we have that might affect or replace draws, best case scenario for one spell is "UU for the first 3 cards on top of your deck, at Sorcery speed" and the other is "UU for your choice of 2 artifacts out of 7 cards on top of your deck, at Instant speed". They're just different spells, that's all
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    Blue channel land is 3U pick up an artifact, enchant, dude, or PW if Reddit is to be believed. Can target own perms..

    Can't wait to bounce Lage under Standstill lol.

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    Wait . . . how does reconfigure work with puresteel? Puresteel reduces equip costs - but reconfigure is not equip? Or does puresteel give your equipment a new equip ability where non existed before?
    Puresteel gives your equipments equip 0, it does not reduce costs

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    Nani!?

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    Needs more "aaAAAAAATATATATATATATA-"

    I'd still call it a flavor win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    Needs more "aaAAAAAATATATATATATATA-"

    I'd still call it a flavor win.
    It's great for the meme factor, although a would have prefered a simple "What?" as flavor text.

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    Just in time for Valentines Day 💝

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    They needed some equipment that put counters on creatures whenever they were dealt combat damage, and then destroy all those creatures when the equipment was unequipped.
    Totally useless in game play, but you can live out your all your Kenshin story lines :P
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    Not sure if it can find a home anywhere (Hammer decks would probably the best fit since they can skip the equipment cost), but building your own Platinum Angel at a lower cost sounds interesting, at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    Just in time for Valentines Day 💝

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    This is perfect.
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    This doesn't seem too shabby, honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Wait . . . how does reconfigure work with puresteel? Puresteel reduces equip costs - but reconfigure is not equip? Or does puresteel give your equipment a new equip ability where non existed before?
    They get the equip ability, but can't use it while they're creatures.

    301.5c An Equipment that’s also a creature can’t equip a creature. ...

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    Re: Kamigawa Neon Destiny - A victory lap around Netrunner

    Yeah except this WOTC bozo on Twitter saying the opposite

    Q: I have a follow up question. As the Reality Chip has Equipment typing, does that mean it can be equipped for 0 by Puresteel Paladin since Puresteel grants an alternative cost? Meanwhile, Bruenor Battlehammer's ability would not work (as it doesn't have an equip cost)?

    A: You have interpreted both of those results correctly, although to be very technical Puresteel Paladin grants a separate equip ability, not an alternative cost. #WotCstaff


    So I can get things forcing attachment like Sigarda's Aid & Auriok Windwalker skips all the Reconfigure stuff and only sees "while attached, this isn't a creature"
    But something With Reconfigure & Equip at the same time, due to Puresteel Paladin or whatever, I agree with you rufus, 301.5c is unambiguous.
    But someone tell WOTC
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
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    But someone tell WOTC
    Sorry, I overlooked your comment. I wonder if someone busted out the crayons and is editing the rules so that twitter comment doesn't have to be walked back.

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    Re: Kamigawa Neon Destiny - A victory lap around Netrunner

    Yup, this is what TsumiBand and I were complaining about.

    Yes, Sigarda's Aid works with reconfigure! Any effect that attaches a creature with reconfigure to another creature will cause it it to stop being a creature until it becomes unattached. This isn't technically a static ability, just part of the rules for reconfigure. #WotCstaff

    Technically not a static ability, but oh boy we're just going to make it function as a de facto one!
    So you're right, current reading of the rules... but lets see what the rules say later this month
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Yup, this is what TsumiBand and I were complaining about.

    Yes, Sigarda's Aid works with reconfigure! Any effect that attaches a creature with reconfigure to another creature will cause it it to stop being a creature until it becomes unattached. This isn't technically a static ability, just part of the rules for reconfigure. #WotCstaff

    Technically not a static ability, but oh boy we're just going to make it function as a de facto one!
    So you're right, current reading of the rules... but lets see what the rules say later this month
    Yeah, keywords sometimes stuff so much shit into one word that its execution belies its intention. I guarantee that most Magic players have no idea how Madness interacts with a card like Stifle (probably anyone actually reading this does, but no player would ever derive it from the keyword and reminder text).
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    This smells like it might have some uses.
    Elves?

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    Not sure what the best target is, but instant speed dryad arbor seems pretty funny.

    Less than rather than less than or equal probably makes it unplayable, since it means it will cost 3 mana most of the time.

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