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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Wrath of Pie: Bayou, Thoughtseize, Elvish Spirit Guide, Mayor of Avabruck, comment:

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Blazing Shoal, Blazing Shoal, Volcanic Salvo, comment: Goblin Smash! - WL
    dte: Thassa's Oracle, Island, Daze, Mox sapphire, comment: - DL
    Reeplcheep: Cavern of Souls, Thassa’s Oracle, Leyline of Sanctity, Razortide Bridge, comment: Interaction is overrated - LL
    Silkster: Underground Sea, Cabal Therapy, Chronomaton, Daze, comment: who needs negation anyway? - WL
    FTW: Subtlety, Force of Negation, Strip Mine, Chronomaton, comment: Subtle variations - DL
    Asthereal: Mishra's Workshop, Trinisphere, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs, comment: bit late, had a chess tourney - DL

    2w3d = 9 points

    Sadly, I still outperformed actual politics.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    I think the deck is legal. Shoal can't be cast until there is a Goblin in play.

    Chancellor triggers on the first upkeep. In response, ceiling deck can play Lotus + Burning Inquiry + Ravager. There is no legal target to Shoal yet. After the stack resolves, there is only a 1/1 haste Goblin vs 3/3 blocker.
    Indeed, you're right!
    I'll edit :)

  3. #603

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    GoblinSmashmaster Results for "Round 2: Turn 1 decks"

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Blazing Shoal, Blazing Shoal, Volcanic Salvo, comment: Goblin Smash!
    That's me on Goblins! :)

    dte: Thassa's Oracle, Island, Daze, Mox sapphire, comment:
    Goblin smash! then Thassa 3-3

    Reeplcheep: Cavern of Souls, Thassa’s Oracle, Leyline of Sanctity, Razortide Bridge, comment: Interaction is overrated
    Goblin smash! 6-0

    Silkster: Underground Sea, Cabal Therapy, Chronomaton, Daze, comment: who needs negation anyway?
    Goblin smash! then discard 3-3

    Wrath of Pie: Bayou, Thoughtseize, Elvish Spirit Guide, Mayor of Avabruck, comment:
    Goblin smash! then discard 3-3

    FTW: Subtlety, Force of Negation, Strip Mine, Chronomaton, comment: Subtle variations
    you use the force :( 0-6

    Asthereal: Mishra's Workshop, Trinisphere, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs, comment: bit late, had a chess tourney
    Goblin smash! then sphere 3-3

    18 goblin points!

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Asthereal's results for round oh crap I forgot about this:

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Blazing Shoal, Blazing Shoal, Volcanic Salvo WL that's a big gobbo.
    dte: Thassa's Oracle, Island, Daze, Mox sapphire WL
    Reeplcheep: Cavern of Souls, Thassa’s Oracle, Leyline of Sanctity, Razortide Bridge DD damn that Leyline!
    Silkster: Underground Sea, Cabal Therapy, Chronomaton, Daze WL
    Wrath of Pie: Bayou, Thoughtseize, Elvish Spirit Guide, Mayor of Avabruck WD
    FTW: Subtlety, Force of Negation, Strip Mine, Chronomaton LL
    Asthereal: Mishra's Workshop, Trinisphere, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs <-me, considering a rook sac

    Total: 15 points?
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Do we want to change the rules so that cards in all ceiling decks are banned? To prevent black lotus being played every odd round.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeplcheep View Post
    Do we want to change the rules so that cards in all ceiling decks are banned? To prevent black lotus being played every odd round.
    Sounds like a good idea to me.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    I think the format will naturally get powered down each round.

    Lotus can't do too many shenanigans while losing to Thoughtseize + Mayor. All T0 and T1 decks are already banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeplcheep View Post
    Do we want to change the rules so that cards in all ceiling decks are banned? To prevent black lotus being played every odd round.
    I'm not convinced that we'll have dominant lotuses every other round, and I also don't think it would necessarily be bad if we did. If we started repeating bigger parts of decks, then that would be a problem. I'd also rather not keep a banned list, preferring to either: 1) ban just Lotus, or 2) change from Vintage to Legacy. If we start getting repetition from they key role players like Chancellor of the Annex, Force of (blue), Thassa's Oracle, and Laboratory maniac, then maybe it would be better to just ban those specifically. Either way, I don't think the change will be necessary this week...

    The next ceiling deck is: Bayou, Thoughtseize, Elvish Spirit Guide, Mayor of Avabruck.

    For this week, these 4 cards are banned. I'll settle for whatever I've got Sunday/Monday and do my best to check for legalities, but don't depend on me because I completely missed how close the Goblin deck was this week.

    Edit: FTW's post appeared while I was writing mine. I'll chalk this one up to "great minds think alike!"
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    Strip Mine is way more annoying than Lotus.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    Strip Mine is way more annoying than Lotus.
    Strip Mine + Channex is "banned" though.

    A lot of Tier 1 strategies from the last 2 rounds are autobanned by having to LL to the ceiling deck. And banning Strip Mine would have 0 impact on the format anyway.

    Then next round we have to LL to whatever Goblin deck LL to Thoughtseize Mayor (or possibly something weaker than that), so the power level should keep declining.

    So I like silkster's ruling for now. We'll see how the next round or 2 goes.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Then next round we have to LL to whatever Goblin deck LL to Thoughtseize Mayor (or possibly something weaker than that), so the power level should keep declining.
    I would bet that the power level will not really decline.
    But I am quite curious to see whether I am wrong or right, and it should be fun in either case.

    I would even bet that if someone were to submit something purposefully very weak (memnite, go!), power level would climb back in 5-6 rounds.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    I do think a discussion is worth having, but I don't like having it during a round because it reveals what you think is going to happen that round. When I post the lists on Tuesday, I plan to list a few ban options to discuss while people do their results.
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    Deck locked in. I'll check for illegal entries now quickly and send PMs if I see any.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Just realized my entry might be illegal. Give me a minute, I'll send in something new.
    EDIT: Done.

    Edit2: LOL...
    False alarm, just use my first entry. I'm too tired for this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    Just realized my entry might be illegal. Give me a minute, I'll send in something new.
    EDIT: Done.

    Edit2: LOL...
    False alarm, just use my first entry. I'm too tired for this crap.
    I was wondering about that. One other player also submitted an updated version of a deck with a reference to the previous one not being legal, but I think it was legal. Okay, going back to the first entry.
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    Ceiling Season - Round 3

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Chancellor of the Forge, Pyrokinesis, Leyline of the Meek, comment: Meek goblins
    dte: Saprazzan Skerry, Saprazzan Skerry, Subtlety, Thassa's Oracle, comment:
    Silkster: Plains, Strip Mine, March of Otherworldly Light, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: no Lotuses please
    Asthereal: Savannah, Selesnya Sanctuary, Steppe Lynx, Fastbond, comment: Too early for supercat?
    Reeplcheep: Chancellor of the Annex, Memnite, Force of Virtue, Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh, comment: Cheerios
    FTW: Strip Mine, Black Lotus, Bitterblossom, Kitesail Freebooter, comment: Subtlety is out the window
    Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Strip Mine, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Desert, comment: Pithing Needle was too good
    Asthereal: Inkmoth Nexus, Mountain, Blazing Shoal, Greater Gargadon, comment: attempt nr 2, should be legal this time

    Plains, Strip Mine, March of Otherworldly Light, Chancellor of the Forge; no Lotuses please

    Over the last 5 days, I've gone from thinking "no bans necessary" to "oh darn, we're going to have to ban things" to "nevermind, no bans necessary" to "hmm, maybe a ban would be good". I think at this point I would default to not banning anything, but I'm open to suggestions.
    Last edited by silkster; 05-30-2024 at 01:59 PM.
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    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Chancellor of the Forge, Pyrokinesis, Leyline of the Meek, comment: Meek goblins
    LL
    dte: Saprazzan Skerry, Saprazzan Skerry, Subtlety, Thassa's Oracle, comment:
    LL
    Silkster: Plains, Strip Mine, March of Otherworldly Light, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: no Lotuses please
    Asthereal: Savannah, Selesnya Sanctuary, Steppe Lynx, Fastbond, comment: Too early for supercat?
    WW
    Reeplcheep: Chancellor of the Annex, Memnite, Force of Virtue, Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh, comment: Cheerios
    LL
    FTW: Strip Mine, Black Lotus, Bitterblossom, Kitesail Freebooter, comment: Subtlety is out the window
    LL
    Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Strip Mine, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Desert, comment: Pithing Needle was too good
    LL

    6 points. After noticing that 3/4 of Reeplcheep's previous deck was incredibly hard to stop (would have gone 30/36), I once again outthought myself and tried to beat it instead of just playing it, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with (near*) surgical precision. I've done this so many times and every time I swear that I've learned my lesson and I never do. smh

    *would have been the perfect 0 before Asthereal's last minute switch. With season score dropping the bottom two, it should be the same anyway.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Chancellor of the Forge, Pyrokinesis, Leyline of the Meek, comment: Meek goblins
    6-0
    6

    dte: Saprazzan Skerry, Saprazzan Skerry, Subtlety, Thassa's Oracle, comment:
    Me, not that subtle

    Silkster: Plains, Strip Mine, March of Otherworldly Light, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: no Lotuses please
    6-0
    12

    Reeplcheep: Chancellor of the Annex, Memnite, Force of Virtue, Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh, comment: Cheerios
    6-0
    18

    FTW: Strip Mine, Black Lotus, Bitterblossom, Kitesail Freebooter, comment: Subtlety is out the window
    6-0. Why is subtlety out?
    24

    Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Strip Mine, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Desert, comment: Pithing Needle was too good
    6-0
    30

    Asthereal: Inkmoth Nexus, Mountain, Blazing Shoal, Greater Gargadon, comment: attempt nr 2, should be legal this time
    3-3, whether it is infection or supercats.
    33

    Good score, but never got to use subtlety:/
    3cb would have worked the same, 2 cb would have been ok.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    FTW: Strip Mine, Black Lotus, Bitterblossom, Kitesail Freebooter, comment: Subtlety is out the window

    GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Chancellor of the Forge, Pyrokinesis, Leyline of the Meek, comment: Meek goblins
    Freebooter gets rid of Pyrokinesis, then Bitterblossom out-tokens you. WW 6-0

    dte: Saprazzan Skerry, Saprazzan Skerry, Subtlety, Thassa's Oracle, comment:
    Good choice to beat Strip Mine & Chancellor. Very bold to have only Subtlety (pitching threat) as interaction. I guess T1 decks & discard were banned so T2 Thassa without interaction is fast enough.
    You have the right answers. Strip Mine kills 1 land, you have a 2nd, Freebooter misses, Thassa wins. LL 0-6

    Silkster: Plains, Strip Mine, March of Otherworldly Light, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: no Lotuses please
    Freebooter takes March, the Bitterblossom out-tokens you. WW 6-0

    Asthereal: Savannah, Selesnya Sanctuary, Steppe Lynx, Fastbond, comment: Too early for supercat?
    When you try to go off T2, Strip Mine kills Sanctuary in response to trigger. Bitterblossom wins. WW 6-0
    Edit: If it's the other deck, Strip Mine kills Inkmoth, Freebooter exiles Shoal, and Bitterblossom races Gargadon.

    Reeplcheep: Chancellor of the Annex, Memnite, Force of Virtue, Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh, comment: Cheerios
    Strip Mine pays for Chancellor tax on Lotus, then Bitterblossom + 1/2 flyer beats a 2/2 & 1/2. WW 6-0

    Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Strip Mine, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Desert, comment: Pithing Needle was too good
    Mirror. OTP Freebooter takes Elspeth and I win without even playing BB.
    OTD you play T1 Elspeth. I play Bitterblossom off Lotus and save Mine to answer Desert (if I expose Mine to yours, Desert kills all my tokens). I think Elspeth still races Bitterblossom.
    WL 3-3

    27 points (9 wins, 3 loss)

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Just to be clear: my entry is the Supercat. I know it's bad but I love the combo too much.
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