Tirrit: Swamp, Wretched Banquet, Inkmoth Nexus, Corpulent Corpse, comment: I just know you all are going to be playing hymn, blood moon, channex, etc.
GoblinSmashmaster: City of Traitors, Lotus Petal, Magus of the Moon, Goblin Cadets, comment: Goblin smash!
I can kill spell your magus or goblin cadets, whichever you choose to cast. The other one will get stuck in your hand. 6-0
dte: Hex Parasite, Flailing Soldier, Mockingbird, Volcanic Island, comment:
I'm running two (non-counter) lands (I feel lucky about that - flailing soldier was NOT on my radar. When I saw your list I thought "wait, what week are we in?". What a neat way to lose to the ceiling deck!) so the soldier dies, and my other stuff cleans up. 6-0
Wrath of Pie: Undiscovered Paradise, Ivory Giant, Sea's Claim, Inquisition of Kozilek, comment:
I think this one is basically play/draw since we have the same clock, neither of can profitably block, and you have all the time in the world to sea's claim inkmoth nexus and inquisition my removal spell. 3-3
FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Dark Ritual, Pox, comment: Nether Spirit blocks too well
I agree that we DD, but I think your take is slightly off: if you wait until my corpse resolves to cast pox I will activate nexus and sac it instead of corpse. It doesn't matter, though. You can just suspend your own corpse whenever, and then cast pox after I play a land or the turn before corpse comes into play. If I never play anything until after you pox, I keep swamp and one other card. Your corpse will kill me faster than nexus can kill you, so I keep kill spell and we trade. If I ever do anything you pox away one of my lands and another card, meaning I can't attack with nexus, and I can't cast corpse and also cast wretched banquet, so at best we trade corpses or removal for your corpse. OTP I can get two lands in play and corpse suspended before you can afford to pox by playing nexus first, but then I have to lose a land and discard the removal spell so it doesn't change anything. 2-2
Silkster: Swamp, Blackmail, Corpulent Corpse, Chancellor of the Annex, comment: charge lands too complicated
Your deck is the reason I couldn't play any of the neat stuff I thought of! But it means I was prepared for this one. 6-0
Reeplcheep: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Bandit’s Talent, Blackmail, comment:
I was not prepared for Bandit's Talent. Not playing creatures is cheating! 0-6
23/36
My favourite deck, that I didn't dare play, was 2x chancellor of the tangle, tempting wurm, inkmoth nexus. It actually would have done pretty well (I think it even beats pox because you sac creatures before lands) because no one was on fatties and charge lands, and there was only one chancellor deck. I was sure that if I tried to run it there would be 4 other decks playing channex just like happened to me two weeks ago with the gerard's verdict/hymn decks!
I think that this is actually WL. On the play, Ivory Giant gets suspended, then you either blackmail something or play nexus. If you take Sea's claim, then inquisition takes bandit's talent and inkmoth nexus is starting to attack only on turn 3 which kills on turn 12, but Ivory giant also kills on turn 12, and you can't profitably block. If you take Inquisition then sea's claim on swamp prevents the talent from being cast (or sea's claim can stop inkmoth nexus, pick your poison). And whichever threat is left kills on turn 12 (or opponent's turn after your turn 12), which is too slow. If you play nexus first then you can't cast blackmail and sea's claim stops nexus, and bandit's talent is, again, too slow.
It's a good thing you didn't try Duress, because it was banned! (It was in the baloth deck from two weeks ago) I agree that Pox was better than hymn. I had a version of your deck in my list that had hymn and I was 6-0ing it since I could race corpse on the draw with t1 nexus t2 swamp. Pox means I can't keep both lands (as long as you're patient with it) so that doesn't work.
GoblinSmashmaster Results for Round "Basic Swamp"
GoblinSmashmaster: City of Traitors, Lotus Petal, Magus of the Moon, Goblin Cadets, comment: Goblin smash!
That's me, finding a goblin!
Tirrit: Swamp, Wretched Banquet, Inkmoth Nexus, Corpulent Corpse, comment: I just know you all are going to be playing hymn, blood moon, channex, etc.
Basic swamp :( 0-6
dte: Hex Parasite, Flailing Soldier, Mockingbird, Volcanic Island, comment:
Nonbasic flail 3-3
Wrath of Pie: Undiscovered Paradise, Ivory Giant, Sea's Claim, Inquisition of Kozilek, comment:
Nonbasic 3-3
FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Dark Ritual, Pox, comment: Nether Spirit blocks too well
Basic swamp :( 1-4
Silkster: Swamp, Blackmail, Corpulent Corpse, Chancellor of the Annex, comment: charge lands too complicated
Basic swamp :( 1-4
Reeplcheep: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Bandit’s Talent, Blackmail, comment:
Nonbasic 3-3
11 goblin points
Wrath of Pie: Undiscovered Paradise, Ivory Giant, Sea's Claim, Inquisition of Kozilek, comment:
GoblinSmashmaster: City of Traitors, Lotus Petal, Magus of the Moon, Goblin Cadets, comment: Goblin smash! - WL
Tirrit: Swamp, Wretched Banquet, Inkmoth Nexus, Corpulent Corpse, comment: I just know you all are going to be playing hymn, blood moon, channex, etc. - WL
dte: Hex Parasite, Flailing Soldier, Mockingbird, Volcanic Island, comment: - DL
FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Dark Ritual, Pox, comment: Nether Spirit blocks too well - WL
Silkster: Swamp, Blackmail, Corpulent Corpse, Chancellor of the Annex, comment: charge lands too complicated - WL
Reeplcheep: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Bandit’s Talent, Blackmail, comment: - WL
5w1d = 16 points
Storage lands had the issue of being way too slow.
(Also, Strafe would have been really good this round.)
I believe tirrit and wop are right that I am just a bit too slow OTD vs the giant.
It looks like reeplcheep wins this round by a single point over Tirrit and me. On we go to a backbuild round, with the powerful seven banned, as well as the last two decks (but not the Swamp).
4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
Black Lotus is the main one that might be viable at enabling some high cmc terrible cards. But that isn't necessarily banworthy.
Lotus Bloom does exist. (Also I thought we were playing Legacy, so it's not legal because of that.)
Yeah, they probably don't need to be banned. I just kept them that way since we hadn't discussed them and I didn't want to make an impulsive decision that turned out to be annoying. Safer to keep things banned. Look at me, I'm the DCI.
I don't think they'll ever be relevant in backbuild rounds, and they haven't been relevant in ceiling rounds, but the moment a ceiling deck has an answer to any of the blue cards, they'll be played. But maybe our ceiling decks won't ever be that good. I think I'm taking myself into the side of "might as well leave them banned". Unbanning them seems either irrelevant or a mistake.
Hmm, Ghost Quarter would have been playable last week. Would it have been good to make people play it or play around it? My feelings say no, but I see that it's subjective.
Do we want Oracle and Ghost Quarter back?
Indeed, I hadn't noticed that Strip Mine is double banned. Really really don't play it! I think I've only actually played ten matches of legacy, and the most recent one was right when BR reanimator with Chancellors of the Annex hit the scene. I know most of the banlist if I think about it, but it's not automatic.
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I would have played black lotus this round, too, if it had been available. It's incredibly difficult to resolve a 4cmc coloured spell early enough to win vs turn 1 black mail, turn 2 discard. Black lotus would let you do it, and there are some really nice 4 drops that would beat the floor deck and lose to lots of stuff!
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4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
I think there's an illegal entry and I want to give some time for a new submission. I really should have looked at the entries sooner, especially since this one was submitted 4 days ago. Sorry about that.
If I don't make the post in 25 minutes, then I'll be going out and won't be back for about 6.5 hours, so you don't have to keep checking here.
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It might be helpful to say who, so they know to check.
Floor Round 5
dte: Mutagenic Growth, Legacy Weapon, Chancellor of the Tangle, Ghazbán Ogre, comment:
Wrath of Pie: Mercadian Bazaar, Deadeye Duelist, Loxodon Smiter, Leyline of Sanctity, comment: Difficult round
GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Gut Shot, Boggart Birth Rite, Legacy Weapon, comment: Goblin smash!
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Tatterkite, comment: Trying to imitate inkmoth nexus. Hopefully people aren't using land destruction or melira!
FTW: Swamp, Rhystic Cave, Raven's Crime, The Rack, comment: Flying too close to the sun?
Silkster: Havenwood Battleground, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Noxious Revival, Providence, comment: RI
reeplcheep: Blazing Rootwalla, Blazing Rootwalla, Tarnished Citadel, Ray of Revelation, comment:
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4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
reeplcheep: Blazing Rootwalla, Blazing Rootwalla, Tarnished Citadel, Ray of Revelation, comment:
I thought ray of revelation was a very cool answer to bandits talent, even if was easy to make the rest of the deck too weak.
dte: Mutagenic Growth, Legacy Weapon, Chancellor of the Tangle, Ghazbán Ogre, comment:
I have an extra threat. WWthe trade kills both of my creatures DD
Wrath of Pie: Mercadian Bazaar, Deadeye Duelist, Loxodon Smiter, Leyline of Sanctity, comment: Difficult round
You can stabilize and win if you get me to 4. Even with 6 lfe headstart you are too slow. WW
GoblinSmashmaster: Chancellor of the Forge, Gut Shot, Boggart Birth RIte, Legacy Weapon, comment: Goblin smash!
X/1s all die. DD
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Tatterkite, comment: Trying to imitate inkmoth nexus. Hopefully people aren't using land destruction or melira!
Very cool. You win the race though. LL
FTW: Swamp, Rhystic Cave, Raven's Crime, The Rack, comment: Flying too close to the sun?
If I have 1 card remaining I am faster but if I have 0 cards remaining you are. DD I think
Silkster: Havenwood Battleground, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Noxious Revival, Providence, comment: RI
You can’t cast Melira twice. WW
4W 6D 2L for 12/36
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