Wrath of Pie: Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Elixir of Immortality, Assassin's Trophy, comment: Time for a classic
dte: Trinisphere, Thespian stage, Mana crypt, Dark depths, comment: - LL - Is this legal?
GoblinSmashmaster: Sandstone Needle, Shocker, Goblin Sparksmith, Fury, comment: Electric goblins - WL - Hilariously, it's just Sparksmith, not Goblin Sparksmith. It really should be though.
Reeplcheep: Mishra’s workshop, Mishra’s workshop, Trinisphere, Wurmcoil Engine, comment: Shops - LL
tirrit: saprazzan skerry, hapless researcher, shelldock isle, emrakul, the aeons torn, comment: - LL
Silkster: Ancient Tomb, Dark Depths, Thespian Stage, Petrified Field, comment: field and gambit both critical - WL
FTW: Chancellor of the Annex, Force of Negation, Phyrexian Metamorph, Fountain of Cho, comment: Loses to LD - WW - You're right, it does lose to LD.
4w = 12 points
tirrit: saprazzan skerry, hapless researcher, shelldock isle, emrakul, the aeons torn, comment:
dte: Trinisphere, Thespian stage, Mana crypt, Dark depths, comment:
Can't beat Trinisphere. LL
GoblinSmashmaster: Sandstone Needle, Shocker, Goblin Sparksmith, Fury, comment: Electric goblins
I empty my hand on my turn 2, so even on the draw I get to cast emrakul on turn 3 and win. WW
Reeplcheep: Mishra’s workshop, Mishra’s workshop, Trinisphere, Wurmcoil Engine, comment: Shops
Can't beat Trinisphere. I hoped there wouldn't be so many! LL
Silkster: Ancient Tomb, Dark Depths, Thespian Stage, Petrified Field, comment: field and gambit both critical
I'm faster since I annihilate you on my turn 3. WW
FTW: Chancellor of the Annex, Force of Negation, Phyrexian Metamorph, Fountain of Cho, comment: Loses to LD
This is (a better version of) one of the decks I was metagaming around (as you noticed) since I thought that show and telling Ulamog or blightsteel colossus was the best thing ever and this seemed like a good answer to that. Turns out no one is playing show and tell! I can pay for chancellor, there's nothing to FoN, and I annihilate on turn 3. WW
Wrath of Pie: Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Elixir of Immortality, Assassin's Trophy, comment: Time for a classic
I win before you cast assassin's trophy on the play, but you play assassin's trophy on my land before I can win on the draw. WL
7 wins, 5 losses for 21/36 points
Yes because if you make Marit Lage on your turn 2 it dies to divine gambit, otherwise they get to play field of ruin and just never tap out and you die to mana crypt. If you don't play crypt then they can tap out to make the 2/1 since you can't make Marit Lage until your next turn.
Yeah Show and Tell was on my radar too. Can T1 with threat that dies to Divine Verdict. There's a slower version that beats counters, so I picked Metamorph as overkill to copy their threat & annihilate first. Then no Show and Tell! Turns out Marit Lage & 3sphere were more popular.
I know these were answered, by I wanted to add that I thought the same things. When I submitted mine, there were 4 decks for me to look over, and 3/4 of them looked illegal at first glance. Then I realized that dte loses the Depths vs Field standoff in 7 turns, that Priest just races Shocker + Sparksmith, and that Emrakul came down a turn slower than typical for Shelldock and was answered by Field and not by Gambit. I was very relieved that the decks appeared legal.
I did this math last night and was pretty sure about it, but I'm glad to see it confirmed. I love that the timing of paying 2 life on turn 5 is the exact amount that makes this matchup go 3-3.
I suppose I'll wait a day or two in case results change, but it seems that Chancellor of the Annex + Force of Negation will be in the ceiling deck next week, which is absolutely wild to me.
4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
GoblinSmashmaster Results for Round 1: Protection from Goblins
dte: Trinisphere, Thespian stage, Mana crypt, Dark depths, comment:
Sphere :( 0-6
GoblinSmashmaster: Sandstone Needle, Shocker, Goblin Sparksmith, Fury, comment: Electric goblins
That's me, with a goblin!
Reeplcheep: Mishra’s workshop, Mishra’s workshop, Trinisphere, Wurmcoil Engine, comment: Shops
Sphere :( 0-6
tirrit: saprazzan skerry, hapless researcher, shelldock isle, emrakul, the aeons torn, comment:
unshockable :( 0-6
Silkster: Ancient Tomb, Dark Depths, Thespian Stage, Petrified Field, comment: field and gambit both critical
Shocker smash, then 20/20 3-3
FTW: Chancellor of the Annex, Force of Negation, Phyrexian Metamorph, Fountain of Cho, comment: Loses to LD
Shocker smash! 6-0
Wrath of Pie: Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Elixir of Immortality, Assassin's Trophy, comment: Time for a classic
Shocker smash, then Trophy 3-3
12 goblin points!
Duh, needle enters tapped so smashmaster can’t get under sphere. Ithat WW puts me at 24/36
dte: Trinisphere, Thespian stage, Mana crypt, Dark depths, comment:
Me, recycling.
GoblinSmashmaster: Sandstone Needle, Shocker, Goblin Sparksmith, Fury, comment: Electric goblins
6-0, trini
6
Reeplcheep: Mishra’s workshop, Mishra’s workshop, Trinisphere, Wurmcoil Engine, comment: Shops
3-3, first to trini
9
tirrit: saprazzan skerry, hapless researcher, shelldock isle, emrakul, the aeons torn, comment:
6-0, trini makes resercher hapless
15
Silkster: Ancient Tomb, Dark Depths, Thespian Stage, Petrified Field, comment: field and gambit both critical
3-3, speed & risks with crypt.
18
FTW: Chancellor of the Annex, Force of Negation, Phyrexian Metamorph, Fountain of Cho, comment: Loses to LD
0-6, I was prepared for channex but not for FoN
18
Wrath of Pie: Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Elixir of Immortality, Assassin's Trophy, comment: Time for a classic
6-0, faster thsn classic
24
It looks like the results are in (thanks to the score sheet now being editable), so I can say
The next ceiling deck is: Chancellor of the Annex, Force of Negation, Phyrexian Metamorph, Fountain of Cho.
The same win-the-game cards and LD-lands are banned, as well as the cards in the ceiling deck. The lists will be published on Tuesday the 23 at 11am EDT, as usual.
4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
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Checking now. Will message in a few minutes if I can't see how something is legal.
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Ceiling Season Bonus Round 2
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
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dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
Me, unimaginative
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
6-0
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
0-6. I had thought of foil + chancellor, I would have played it.
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
0-6. Leyline+chancellor beats leyline without.
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
6-0, leyline
12
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
0-6, gob win
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
2-2, staredown
14
Didn't go great, chancellor was smarter.
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
Loses to counters seems like the obvious thing, so I played a counter deck that can’t beat chancellor.
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
Foil serpent WW
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
Foil lotus, decline to madness, you twister, I foil again. Lol foil was better than fow here. WW
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
Foiled DD
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
Foiled WW
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
I hardcast rootwalla if you do nothing. WW
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
Foiled WW
10 W 2D for 32/36
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment: - LL
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash! - LL
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils - LL
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right? - LL
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin? - LL
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls - LL
That's a perfect sweep.
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
I deliberated between turn 0 discard, turn 1 discard with Foil, turn 1 Emrakul (resists discard), then finally turn 0 exile (beats Emrakul) with non-spell threat. This seemed best, but Reeplcheep wins with an extra 1/1!!
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent
1/1 goblin means you have to act first. If you play a Lotus, I respond with Lotus + Amnesia and exile your Serpent. WW 6-0
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens
Turn 0 exile your hand, goblin smash! WW 6-0
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge
You came prepared to next-level this!!
Our Goblins trade. If I play Lotus, you Foil and get Rootwalla. If I do nothing, you play Rootwalla. You have more 1/1s than me. LL 0-6
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper
Mirror match! Our goblins trade. Whoever plays Lotus first loses, so no one does. DD 2-2
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated
Turn 0 exile your hand WW 6-0
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation
1/1 goblin means you have to act first. If you play Lotus, I respond with Lotus + Amnesia to exile your hand. WW 6-0
26 points (8 wins, 2 draws, 2 loss)
GoblinSmashmaster Results for Round "Who has the fastest Goblins?"
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
Discard :( 0-6
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
That's me smashing with 12 goblins!
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
Faster goblins & foiled twice :( 0-6
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
Faster goblins :( 0-6
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
Goblins smash! 6-0
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
Faster goblins :( 0-6
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
Discard :( 0-6
6 goblin points :|
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
This is me and I learned this morning that the deck I feared was illegal because I forgot that force of negation isn't just a pitch cast negate!
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
I beat down with goblin and whoever casts first doesn't get to do anything so I win: 6-0
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
I make lotus cost 2 on your upkeep: 6-0
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
stalemate: 2-2
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
I make lotus cost 2 on your upkeep: 6-0
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
mirror match stalemate: 2-2 (nice deck!)
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
I beat down with goblin and whoever casts first doesn't get to do anything so I win: 6-0 (well I guess you can cast cabal therapy after the dust has settled :P)
28/36 points
dte: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Black lotus, Bladecoil Serpent, comment:
DD
GoblinSmashmaster: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Timetwister, Empty the Warrens, comment: Goblin smash!
WW
Reeplcheep: Foil, Volcanic Island, Blazing Rootwalla, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Mad for Foils
LL
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Chancellor of the Forge, Black Lotus, Anointed Peacekeeper, comment: No one's going to play FoW this week, right?
LL
Wrath of Pie: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated, comment:
WW
FTW: Leyline of Anticipation, Black Lotus, Induced Amnesia, Chancellor of the Forge, comment: Rock paper goblin?
LL
Silkster: Black Lotus, Cabal Therapy, Bitterblossom, Leyline of Anticipation, comment: no force pls
My initial read on the format was Force decks, decks that beat Force, and decks that lose to Force, and I was really unhappy with that because these rock-paper-scissors metas never go well for me. I missed Foil, and it actually makes me feel a bit better that I lost to that rather than a bad guess. 3cb with Force, blue card, red chancellor would have gotten me more points, but not by much.
I was already brainstorming decks that lose to 12 goblins last night, but it looks like it'll be Karn.
Next ceiling deck: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas, Karn Liberated.
These cards are out for the round, and the same 3 blue cards and 4 lands are still banned.
4CB Ceiling Season Entry Form and the google sheet for scores.
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Heads up that next week the deadline will be pushed back by 24 hours.
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Ceiling Season Bonus Round 3
GoblinSmashmaster: City of Traitors, Mox Ruby, Magus of the Moon, Broadside Bombardiers, comment: Boastful goblins
FTW: Forest, Mox Emerald, Channel, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, comment: Form of the Spaghetti
Tirrit: Leyline of Anticipation, Mox Pearl, Lotus Petal, Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, comment: I'm hoping people are too afraid of land destruction to do land things
Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Mox Ruby, Blood Moon, Lupine Prototype, comment:
Reeplcheep: Mishra’s Factory, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Mox Pearl, Chancellor of the Annex, comment: Taxes
Silkster: Forest, Mox Emerald, Channel, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, comment: hopefully the right monster
dte: Mishra's workshop, Ensnaring bridge, Scalding Tongs, Maze of ith, comment:
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