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Thread: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Yes, I just read underground sea, did not think of the river. Even looking again and again thinking you would not have missed it I never realised it was not underground sea.
    The river gives you exactly the 3 damages needed.
    Sorry for the scare!
    I definitely miss stuff pretty frequently. I remember one round years ago when I did my scores first and had something like 5.8 round points and then someone was like "isn't Grist banned?". I also remember missing the line of Pemmin's Aura on their own Life of the Party token to untap and block. The worst part of that mistake is that I could easily have played Intervene instead of Avoid Fate to avoid it. I've missed at least one illegal deck this season (and I've had a few false positives, which I think isn't as bad, or at least doesn't feel as bad). But this is also why I did the "drop 2 scores" thing, so that a mistake like this isn't crippling to the whole season.

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Damn, being scared of magus of the moon and evil presence like things did not pay of: chronomaton did nothing, and having my first thought of sanctuary island, ulamog, sanitarium, and calciform pools would have made a full sweep :/
    Instead it seems quite far from it.
    It's funny, almost none of the lists I was thinking about cared about magus or Evil Presence, so I didn't think about them at all, figuring that they'd be terrible, but I ended up on a deck that would lose to that type of thing anyway (well, not Evil Presence specifically).

    Portable Hole is a cool idea that I didn't think of at all because a few of my early decks had suspend creatures. It did feel disappointing that the one-mana suspend creatures have either a 9-turn clock, which is too fast, or a 12-turn clock, which is a bit slow, so I'm maybe not surprised that no one played any.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    My deck is the floor deck right?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeplcheep View Post
    My deck is the floor deck right?
    I assumed it was Silkster's?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    I assumed it was Silkster's?
    Either way we have to beat Cabal Therapy + Fume Spitter + 1 land + 1 cmc threat

    Not easy to WW vs Cabal Therapy + 2 creatures!

    And Leyline of Anticipation + 2 fast mana sources (Petal, Ritual) are banned.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Either way we have to beat Cabal Therapy + Fume Spitter + 1 land + 1 cmc threat

    Not easy to WW vs Cabal Therapy + 2 creatures!

    And Leyline of Anticipation + 2 fast mana sources (Petal, Ritual) are banned.
    Sure, but it might still change things.
    From both their posts and the table, Silkster is on 28 and Reep on 27.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Sure, but it might still change things.
    From both their posts and the table, Silkster is on 28 and Reep on 27.
    Yes, this seems to be the case. So I will confirm and declare that mine is now the floor deck (and if someone finds a new error in the scores, it's too late!).

    Banned are:
    Underground River
    Fume Spitter
    Cruel Sadist
    Cabal Therapy
    Leyline of Anticipation
    Lotus Petal
    Dark Ritual
    Tatterkite
    Laboratory Maniac
    Thassa's Oracle
    Jace, Wielder of Mysteries
    Strip Mine
    Ghost Quarter
    Wasteland
    Volatile Fault.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    paused. Did people see this?

    Only when doing my write-up did I realize that I don't think Reeplcheep's deck is legal.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by silkster View Post
    paused. Did people see this?

    Only when doing my write-up did I realize that I don't think Reeplcheep's deck is legal.
    Didn't see it but I did take the extra time to submit a modified deck.

    How long are we pausing?
    Last edited by FTW; 09-25-2024 at 12:44 PM.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    24 hours was my plan, but then I got caught up with other things. I say we continue.

    Floor Round 7

    GoblinSmashmaster: Den of the Bugbear, Molten Slagheap, Ice Floe, Boggart Birth Rite, comment: Goblin smash!
    Wrath of Pie: Subterranean Hangar, Archfiend of the Dross, Fruit of Tizerus, Leyline of Sanctity, comment:
    dte: Svyelunite Temple, Eriette's Tempting Apple, Molten Slagheap, Academy Ruins, comment: LL to 1CB memnite
    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef, comment: To beat Silkster
    Tirrit: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mercadian Bazaar, Keldon Megaliths, Eternal Flame, comment: It's neat that this deck can't empty its hand vs Leyline.
    Silkster: Fountain of Cho, Leyline of Sanctity, Light of Day, Volunteer Reserves, comment: don't punish leyline pls
    FTW: Icatian Store, Mortuary Mire, Obsidian Acolyte, Orzhova, Church of Deals, comment: Better than Wall of Light?
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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Tirrit: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mercadian Bazaar, Keldon Megaliths, Eternal Flame, comment: It's neat that this deck can't empty its hand vs Leyline.


    GoblinSmashmaster: Den of the Bugbear, Molten Slagheap, Ice Floe, Boggart Birth Rite, comment: Goblin smash!
    Megaliths gets raced by den of the bugbear 6-0

    Wrath of Pie: Subterranean Hangar, Archfiend of the Dross, Fruit of Tizerus, Leyline of Sanctity, comment:
    Megaliths gets raced by archfiend 6-0 edit: I just wanted to add that this is a neat idea. I had some decks running suncleanser to deal with the counters on sadist in my list and this would be a really funny way to go LL against that

    dte: Svyelunite Temple, Eriette's Tempting Apple, Molten Slagheap, Academy Ruins, comment: LL to 1CB memnite
    I would crush 1CB memnite, but I LL to eriette gaining you 3 life every 5 turns (I think) and then dispatching me at your leisure 6-0 This deck is so cool, though! The apple prevents floor deck from playing the fume spitter, punishes sadist for growing, is life gain to buy enough time, and is a win con on its own! You're really using all the parts of the apple here.

    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef, comment: To beat Silkster
    I agree that this deck isn't legal, but for interest's sake I think I would DD to it since it can end step make mana with rhystic cave, then if I pay with megaliths, untap and try again. I can pay with bazaar, and then untap and charge bazaar with megaliths holding down the fort, but he can force me to pay with bazaar in that way every two turns so its a stalemate. If I let him activate I lose the race since I deal 2 damage per 6 turns and he does 1 and gains one every 5 turns. 6-0 on legality

    Silkster: Fountain of Cho, Leyline of Sanctity, Light of Day, Volunteer Reserves, comment: don't punish leyline pls
    I punish leyline. 6-0

    FTW: Icatian Store, Mortuary Mire, Obsidian Acolyte, Orzhova, Church of Deals, comment: Better than Wall of Light?
    I can kill the acolyte, but I get raced by orzhova, since you can activate every 5 turns, where I only deal 2 every 6 turns. I also have to give you a 5 turn head start in order to empty my hand. 6-0


    36/36

    My favourite deck that I was too scared to play was {Chancellor the Annex, Chalice of the Void, City of Traitors, Copper Tablet}. Here it would have cleaned up since everyone is on charge lands!

    It's funny because the first three cards look like it's trying really hard to win, and I bet there are ceiling rounds where it would win some. I guess we tend to do different things in ceiling rounds vs floor rounds so that it wins in the one and loses in the other.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Damn, I made the wrong choice again, mindslaver / portable hole would have been the way to go :/
    I just thought everyone would play around it, I played temple only to DD vs it. Turns out no one played it nor around it :/

    Congrats tirrit!
    Indeed your prison deck would have been very funny too! And allow for full power next round.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    GoblinSmashmaster: Den of the Bugbear, Molten Slagheap, Ice Floe, Boggart Birth Rite, comment: Goblin smash!
    6-0, goblin smash!
    6

    Wrath of Pie: Subterranean Hangar, Archfiend of the Dross, Fruit of Tizerus, Leyline of Sanctity, comment:
    2-2, nice archfiend.
    8

    dte: Svyelunite Temple, Eriette's Tempting Apple, Molten Slagheap, Academy Ruins, comment: LL to 1CB memnite
    Me, on apple. 3 damages every 5 turns is way too fast.

    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef, comment: To beat Silkster
    0-6, apple too fast.

    Tirrit: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mercadian Bazaar, Keldon Megaliths, Eternal Flame, comment: It's neat that this deck can't empty its hand vs Leyline.
    0-6, apple too fast.

    Silkster: Fountain of Cho, Leyline of Sanctity, Light of Day, Volunteer Reserves, comment: don't punish leyline pls
    2-2, I do punish Leyline but I think my life gain is too fast for you to kill me.
    10

    FTW: Icatian Store, Mortuary Mire, Obsidian Acolyte, Orzhova, Church of Deals, comment: Better than Wall of Light?
    6-0, acolyte too good.
    16

    I only thought of 2 decks but picked the wrong one :/

  14. #974

    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Damn, I made the wrong choice again, mindslaver / portable hole would have been the way to go :/
    I just thought everyone would play around it, I played temple only to DD vs it. Turns out no one played it nor around it :/

    Congrats tirrit!
    Thanks! Yeah Mindslaver was not on my radar at all. I guess that's something you have to consider any time the floor deck can hurt itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Damn, I made the wrong choice again, mindslaver / portable hole would have been the way to go :/
    I just thought everyone would play around it, I played temple only to DD vs it. Turns out no one played it nor around it :/

    Congrats tirrit!
    Your worst fears have been realized.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef, comment: To beat Silkster
    0-6, apple too fast.
    I think you get 6 points here anyway since Reep's deck can't beat the floor deck. The floor deck can run out a 1/1 and then pay for tabernacle with colorless mana each turn in order to race orzhova

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Quote Originally Posted by tirrit View Post
    Thanks! Yeah Mindslaver was not on my radar at all. I guess that's something you have to consider any time the floor deck can hurt itself.
    Yes, particularly if it can as well sacrifice it's own threats.
    Often when you see a floor deck playing a ping land several players play some too. Not today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    Your worst fears have been realized.
    Indeed! I didn't know the card, could be interesting one day.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    I originally submitted Wall of Light but changed it to Obsidian Acolyte after the deadline. Wall was better. My deck was supposed to be unable to win vs Leyline, but now it can.

    GoblinSmashmaster: Den of the Bugbear, Molten Slagheap, Ice Floe, Boggart Birth Rite
    Ice Floe stops Acolyte, and your land races much faster than mine. LL 6-0

    Wrath of Pie: Subterranean Hangar, Archfiend of the Dross, Fruit of Tizerus, Leyline of Sanctity
    Archfiend + Fruit kills me T9. LL 6-0

    dte: Svyelunite Temple, Eriette's Tempting Apple, Molten Slagheap, Academy Ruins
    Got punished for switching to Acolyte. Apple races Church, but Acolyte gets in faster. WW 0-6

    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef
    Can't win vs ceiling deck, it can always pay 1 to pay for Rhystic Cave
    Default 6-0

    Tirrit: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mercadian Bazaar, Keldon Megaliths, Eternal Flame
    If I try to play Acolyte, you are faster (I need to charge 20 extra to pay for Tabernacle, then you still kill it). But if I don't play Acolyte then I drain 1 every 5 turns, which races your 1 every 3 turns. WW 0-6

    Silkster: Fountain of Cho, Leyline of Sanctity, Light of Day, Volunteer Reserves
    Punished again for switching from Wall of Light.
    Church can't win through Leyline, but Acolyte attacks through Light of Day and Volunteer Reserves
    WW 0-6

    Lesson learned, don't change deck.

    18 pts (6 loss, 6 wins)

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Definitely thought underground river was mana confluence for some reason. 0 points.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind: The Silkster Seasons

    Wrath of Pie: Subterranean Hangar, Archfiend of the Dross, Fruit of Tizerus, Leyline of Sanctity, comment:

    GoblinSmashmaster: Den of the Bugbear, Molten Slagheap, Ice Floe, Boggart Birth Rite, comment: Goblin smash! - WW
    dte: Svyelunite Temple, Eriette's Tempting Apple, Molten Slagheap, Academy Ruins, comment: LL to 1CB memnite - DD
    Reeplcheep: The Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale, Orzhova, the Church of Deals, Rhystic Cave, Dreadship Reef, comment: To beat Silkster -
    Tirrit: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Mercadian Bazaar, Keldon Megaliths, Eternal Flame, comment: It's neat that this deck can't empty its hand vs Leyline. - WW
    Silkster: Fountain of Cho, Leyline of Sanctity, Light of Day, Volunteer Reserves, comment: don't punish leyline pls - LL - This is the best matchup ever.
    FTW: Icatian Store, Mortuary Mire, Obsidian Acolyte, Orzhova, Church of Deals, comment: Better than Wall of Light?[/QUOTE] - WW

    2l2d = 8 points

    I tried my hardest to make Worst Fears work, but Cruel Sadist is surprisingly fast and all the support options I could think of are easily played around. Good old Mindslaver probably would have done the trick, especially because you can loop it and don't have to dedicate a slot to Leyline of Sanctity. dte is apparently way more clever than I could hope to be.

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