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    [DECK] Cycles for Nothing and Your Critters for Free

    I've been mostly playing Arena for awhile now, but the cowards at WOTC still won't put Astral Drift on there so I figured I'd take a look at cracking it in Legacy.

    Just from looking around at what's popular the best solution seems to be abandoning the traditional control/witness shell and just embracing the degeneracy with free cyclers and free creatures that have stupid ETB effects. Namely Solitude and Grief. One hits their hand, the other hits their creatures. The game plan is to disrupt them with cheap discard, exile and kill all their dudes, then just beat face.

    Creatures - 17
    4x Grief
    4x Solitude
    3x Orcish Bowmaster
    4x Street Wraith

    Spells - 17
    4x Thoughtseize
    4x Edge of Autumn
    4x Astral Drift
    3x Life from the Loam
    2x Assassin's Trophy

    Planeswalkers - 4
    3x Karn, the Great Creator
    1x Gideon of the Trials

    Lands - 24
    3x Boseiju, Who Endures
    4x Flagstones of Trokair
    3x Ash Barrens
    4x Indatha Triome
    3x Scattered Groves
    2x Plains
    1x Forest
    1x Swamp
    2x Emeria, The Sky Ruin
    1x Heliod's Hall of Generosity

    Sideboard
    3x Damn
    4x Obstinate Baloth
    2x Gideon of the Trials
    1x Tormod's Crypt
    1x Mycosinth Lattice
    1x Engineered Explosives
    1x Pithing Needle
    1x The Stone Brain
    1x The One Ring

    The new white Court looks interesting because it can recur Drifts, Gideon, and Bowmasters, as well as lands you've dredged/cycled into the 'yard. The lands to the battlefield bit might be the most boring and useful tbh. Sideboard is built to hate on creature swarm decks, discard decks, and burn decks. Grief and Solitude pair incredibly well with Drift since you just slide them out after evoking them, meaning once you drop a drift, you can cast and cycle them for zero mana thanks to Edge and Wraith. Emeria means your Elementals and Wraiths come back for free to beat face. Bowmasters work great as both anti-bowmaster tech, anti-drawing tech, and a target for drifting in and out. They also help with stuff like Elves and DnT. Trophy and Boseiju give you a ton of LD, and deal with most any other permanents, while Karn locks down any artifact decks that try to outmana you, and hits a lot of combo decks hard as well.

    No Eternal Witness's since the card just doesn't do enough anymore for its cost, sadly. No Volrath's Stronghold because Emeria does the same thing but better. No Wasteland because Boseiju and Assassin's Trophy do the job without costing you a land drop and are more versatile.

    The only cards in the list that are Legacy only are Ash Barrens and Mycosynth Lattice, but those do allow you outs to things like Blood Moon and work as an alternative "i win button" respectively.

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    Re: [DECK] Cycles for Nothing and Your Critters for Free

    What's the reason for the lack of Troll of Khazad-dum? It cycles, can help fix your mana and it would play along nicely with Reanimate to give your deck a Scam angle for Grief/Solitude. Grief/Troll/Reanimate is one of the stronger packages in Legacy right now and I see little reason not to add it.

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    Re: [DECK] Cycles for Nothing and Your Critters for Free

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    What's the reason for the lack of Troll of Khazad-dum? It cycles, can help fix your mana and it would play along nicely with Reanimate to give your deck a Scam angle for Grief/Solitude. Grief/Troll/Reanimate is one of the stronger packages in Legacy right now and I see little reason not to add it.
    It's not there because I didn't know about it, lol. But yeah, Troll or Cast Out and/or Reanimate could be easy additions.

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    Re: [DECK] Cycles for Nothing and Your Critters for Free

    You don't have enough white cards to make Solitude reliable. Grief scam looks like a good plan here though, and Grief flickers well.

    4 Grief
    4 Street Wraith
    4 Troll
    4 Bowmasters
    4 Reanimate

    Plus the rest. Thoughtseize, Trophy, Drift, Edge of Autumn, Loam, Cast Out.

    Also look at Currency Converter, another great payoff for cycling.

    Edit: you could support Solitude if you ran more white cards. It might be worth it. White has a lot of great stuff:
    Cast Out
    Charming Prince
    Timeless Dragon
    Prismatic Ending
    the new white Court

    If you don't have space for white cards too, just use Palace Jailer or Skyclave Apparition instead of Solitude.
    Last edited by FTW; 08-28-2023 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    If you don't have space for white cards
    Yorion.

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