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    Archway seems good in Affinity: Improvise + Affinity double up. Thought Monitor and Sojourner's Companion need fewer artifacts in play. Sicarian Infiltrator can get copied more.

    Necrodominance is much worse than Necropotence because you can only keep 5 cards, while Necropotence let you keep 7. It's still probably good in Doomsday.

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    Archway seems good in Affinity: Improvise + Affinity double up. Thought Monitor and Sojourner's Companion need fewer artifacts in play. Sicarian Infiltrator can get copied more.

    Necrodominance is much worse than Necropotence because you can only keep 5 cards, while Necropotence let you keep 7. It's still probably good in Doomsday.
    I guess we'll find out in time which of the spoilers are real, and which of the cards get themselves listed.

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    Speaking of, have they spoiled the blue Goyf yet?

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    Necrodominance isn't enough of a debuff to Necropotence given that Dark Ritual is still legal, they printed Grief, and most of all the changes to the Mulligan rules. Like, I'd rather have Necrodominance with the new mulligan rules than Necropotence with the old ones, and Necropotence was still obviously too good with the old ones.

    Like you can just mull until you have Ritual-Dominance and a Grief or Unmask in hand and the game is basically over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Like you can just mull until you have Ritual-Dominance and a Grief or Unmask in hand and the game is basically over.
    A deck with both Dark Ritual and free interaction wants it most.

    Problem is Reanimator/Scaminator can't play it due to the graveyard exile clause, and those are the top Dark Ritual + Grief decks. You'd have to be a Grief deck without Reanimate (monoblack?).

    Doomsday can protect with FoW/Daze and maybe Grief/Unmask, seems good there.

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    Warren Soultrader and Gravecrawler is a near infinite combo.

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    Warren Soultrader and Gravecrawler is a near infinite combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    A deck with both Dark Ritual and free interaction wants it most.

    Problem is Reanimator/Scaminator can't play it due to the graveyard exile clause, and those are the top Dark Ritual + Grief decks. You'd have to be a Grief deck without Reanimate (monoblack?).

    Doomsday can protect with FoW/Daze and maybe Grief/Unmask, seems good there.
    Yup.

    Honestly seems overly clunky in Doomsday also. I would assume if that deck plays the card its not gonna be part of any immediate win lines but more so if they didn't find a Doomsday and want to use it to draw into the combo.

    Also in considering whether new necro will be problematic, out of the two 60 card formats where OG necro is legal/restricted its not really a big part of the meta.

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    This seems great. It's been forever since we got a good white 2 mana all purpose hatebear. Aside from being fetchable with Recruiter, it does combo with Phelia as early as T3. Or it can ramp you with Flagstones.

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    Honestly seems overly clunky in Doomsday also. I would assume if that deck plays the card its not gonna be part of any immediate win lines but more so if they didn't find a Doomsday and want to use it to draw into the combo
    Yeah, it could be a secondary line. That's copies 5-8 of draw engine to Dark Ritual into, making Ritual much more consistent. Beats using stuff like Ledger Shredder or Baleful Strix or whatever else they ran to bridge those middle turns.

    It means they can afford to get greedy with card disadvantage (Ritual, Personal Tutor, FoW, Grief) because they have ways to refill hand.

    It's not great in any main Doomsday lines, but they could sneak it into a pile for "skip your draw phase" so they don't auto-lose to Dress Down/Stifle on Thassa. Still have to beat a 1/x!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    A deck with both Dark Ritual and free interaction wants it most.

    Problem is Reanimator/Scaminator can't play it due to the graveyard exile clause, and those are the top Dark Ritual + Grief decks. You'd have to be a Grief deck without Reanimate (monoblack?).

    Doomsday can protect with FoW/Daze and maybe Grief/Unmask, seems good there.
    You can do much better things drawing seven cards a turn than whatever scaminator is doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    You can do much better things drawing seven cards a turn than whatever scaminator is doing
    Have a list in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    You can do much better things drawing seven cards a turn than whatever scaminator is doing
    5 cards a turn, with no value from excess cards (exiled). And you can't set aside cards immediately, so opponent can remove before you draw any cards.

    You have to be a functional Grief + Dark Ritual deck when you don't have Necrodominance (majority of games) without having a scam plan. Those are the harsher limits. How do you make the 4x Dark Ritual 4x Grief in your deck into non-card disadvantage all the times you don't draw Necro or it gets killed before the draw. A lot of decks don't meet that requirement.

    Monoblack might. Doomsday might. Black Saga storm might try to jam it without Grief.

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    5 cards a turn, with no value from excess cards (exiled). And you can't set aside cards immediately, so opponent can remove before you draw any cards.

    You have to be a functional Grief + Dark Ritual deck when you don't have Necrodominance (majority of games) without having a scam plan. Those are the harsher limits. How do you make the 4x Dark Ritual 4x Grief in your deck into non-card disadvantage all the times you don't draw Necro or it gets killed before the draw. A lot of decks don't meet that requirement.

    Monoblack might. Doomsday might. Black Saga storm might try to jam it without Grief.
    The point is that with modern mulligan rules, you will in fact have turn 1 Necrodominance the vast majority of games, very often with backup Grief/Unmask.
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    This feels impactful. Burn will want copies. Not sure if this is a card Delver wants for the mirror?
    This does bury further the notion that Sensei's Divining Tops will ever get unbanned.
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    This should be super good with 0 mana artifacts like Petal, Baubles and LED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    This should be super good with 0 mana artifacts like Petal, Baubles and LED.
    Loam plus Petals/LED goes off if you have something to go off into.
    Dust off the old Underworld Breach lists, this will be a deck.
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    This feels impactful. Burn will want copies. Not sure if this is a card Delver wants for the mirror?
    This does bury further the notion that Sensei's Divining Tops will ever get unbanned.
    Play alongside Enlightened and worldly tutor alongside a toolbox of cards to tutor/cast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Play alongside Enlightened and worldly tutor alongside a toolbox of cards to tutor/cast?
    E Tutor for a second copy and start ripping through your deck lol
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