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Release date: August 2nd 2024
Just making a thread in case anything new actually looks interesting. So far, nothing really, just a templating change that "enters the battlefield" is now shortened to "enters:"
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
This is an expensive way to Ephemerate Solitude, Grief, Recruiter of the Guard, etc. For 4 cmc you'd need enough Birds to get recurring value.
Pride of the Clouds? Too slow for Legacy.
Restoration Angel sees no play and this is arguably worse.Originally Posted by FTW
After browsing the Birds on Scryfall, I'll go out on a limb and say this will not see constructed play outside of possibly Standard. I was thinking it could possibly become viable in Pioneer if they added Vial to the format but there are really no good ETB effects for Birds in a creature-heavy deck.
In Standard you can try to build around this and cards like Aven Interrupter and Nimble Larcenist.
It prevents re-targeting the same thing and has a delay before stuff comes back. They really didn't want it to see any combo use.
Nothing looking too insane, although this Ral with free spells could get out of control, at least in theory:
I like the look of both these frogs, but for EDH really:
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Unconditional Murder at 2 mana is new for black, although it's sorcery speed.
Glarb looks playable in GSZ Field of the Dead piles. It's a Courser of Kruphix effect with deathtouch & Surveil.
Might be playable in Sultai Beans. Casting Force, Murktide, etc from top of library is pretty good. Fills the graveyard for Delve.
Flubs... lets you Cheerios your way through the deck once you're down to 1 card. There's probably some degenerate storm brew possible, but it's probably Tier 3 and worse than Song of Creation.
If you have some free, repeatable discard outlet (e.g. Psychic Frog, but that is kinda off-color), you can basically guarantee the draw each time. Probably no need to be fancy.
Edit: This one seems interesting for Tribal decks:
feels trappy. how many tribal decks still need a ton of mana AFTER they get all their dudes out? Elves doesn't count because they already have infi mana at that pointIf you have some free, repeatable discard outlet (e.g. Psychic Frog, but that is kinda off-color), you can basically guarantee the draw each time. Probably no need to be fancy.
Edit: This one seems interesting for Tribal decks:
In most decks it will also be worse than Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx which sees no play.
The effect is certainly weaker than Song of Creation but Flubs does have lower casting cost, triggers on land drops and is compatible with stuff like Summoner's Pact so at least Flubs isn't strictly worse. There's probably some kind of tier 3+ dredge deck too.
"How much red hate do you want?"
"Yes."
Very sad that Burn can't play this b/c Daze.
2RR "Can be countered" < R "deal 3"
Red stompy/Initiative could consider it but it's probably worse than their other 4cmc options. Maybe SB.
I wish they'd print more red hate that was good in monored.
Maybe
1RR 4/3
Haste, Can't be countered
Whenever a player draws a card other than the first card in draw step, deal 3 damage to that player.
Put out the fire - sacrifice if you control an Island
Dredge has no room for a 3-mana spell in Legacy or Modern.
Dread Return has better targets (Satoru, the Infiltrator, Duskana, the Rage Mother, Ox of Agonas, and Ashen Rider are the more common ones these days; Griselbrand, Atraxa, Grand Unifier, Archon of Cruelty, and Terror of the Peaks don't make the cut).
I don't think Madness decks could make use of it either, and I don't think it is strong enough on its own to warrant building around. Any sort of deck built around it would probably fail to function without it since the ability is so unusual. I know you said Tier 3+, and that is technically true, as a non-functional deck would belong in that category.
I would love to be wrong, as I like both Dredge and Madness as archetypes - drawing cards and discarding cards are things I find fun. If I played Commander, I would definitely try to build around it.
Seems breakable. Even if you just cast Griefs and Furys with it.
Works flawlessly with Seasoned Dungeoneer and can be triggered by stuff like fetches or Ancient Tombs. Although the "dies to Bowmaster" drawback might be too harsh.
Double synergy with Witch Enchanter
Works flawlessly with Seasoned Dungeoneer and can be triggered by stuff like fetches or Ancient Tombs. Although the "dies to Bowmaster" drawback might be too harsh.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
Cruelclaw doesn't shuffle your library first & doesn't care about CMC. If you can manipulate your top card, you can cast Emrakul. Or even just Nulldrifter, Troll, or Grief.
Chain of vapour and void snare are played in legacy. Unless you are bouncing your own stuff/playing burning wish, this seems better.
Into the Flood Maw
{U}
Instant
Gift a tapped Fish (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they create a tapped 1/1 blue Fish creature token before its other effects.)
Return target creature an opponent controls to its owner’s hand. If the gift was promise, instead return target nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner’s hand.
What decks other than Storm play Chain of Vapor? Storm sometimes uses Chain of Vapor on themselves.
I think Void Snare only sees play as a Burning Wish target, otherwise that slot would be Chain or a 2cmc (Brazen, Echoing Truth) to beat Chalice @ 1.
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