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    [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set



    Release: September 27th 2024

    No idea why a set is coming out a month after another, but hey, get money!



    Creatures that come back as enchantments.



    Pseudo-suspend that is non-creature until it loses the counters. Also, Land tokens.
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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

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    "Dem kids today like dem stranger things so lets to that."

    Considering they are so devoid of any interesting ideas they have to run out of things to steal from given the ever increasing speed of product releases.

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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    "Dem kids today like dem stranger things so lets to that."

    Considering they are so devoid of any interesting ideas they have to run out of things to steal from given the ever increasing speed of product releases.
    It certainly continues the current trend of fucking stupid ideas like "everybody is a detective" and "everybody is a cowboy".

    As for the land toke, it enables full Domain, for what it's worth.

    Edit: Doesn't the entire Impending mechanic combo with Solemnity?

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    I want to see enchantments that come back as Planeswalkers

    Or enchantments that turn sideways when modified with a land token (land equivalent of equip), but the enchantment can only "attack" a planeswalker or battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    It certainly continues the current trend of fucking stupid ideas like "everybody is a detective" and "everybody is a cowboy".

    As for the land toke, it enables full Domain, for what it's worth.

    Edit: Doesn't the entire Impending mechanic combo with Solemnity?
    It says "last counter removed" so I'd expect it doesn't trigger when it never had any counters on it.
    In that case it should also not trigger again if you Stifle that trigger.
    Seems like one of the very few things they learn is how to not do Dark Depths again.

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    Vampire Hexmage still works though, since they are removed.

    Copy Enchantment makes a copy with no time counters that doesn't trigger, but it wasn't Impended so it's already a creature anyway.

    Estrid's Invocation should remove all time counters and return it as a creature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    "Dem kids today like dem stranger things so lets to that."

    Considering they are so devoid of any interesting ideas they have to run out of things to steal from given the ever increasing speed of product releases.
    There are only two rules for magic:

    1. WOTC will print any amount of product to keep hasbro execs getting their bonuses no matter how badly the rest of the company does.
    2. No astral slide effects will ever be on Arena, and any new things like Rift or Drift will not be pushed, even if we break every other mechanic and card type.

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    3. Stone Rain will never see power creep because even 3-mana basic land LD is unfun for casual & Standard players.

    I'm disappointed Hasbro hasn't found a way to make Lands modify Enchantments yet.

    Or a Bestow-Walker that can either enter as a planeswalker or enchant a planeswalker to add abilities and loyalty (when that planeswalker dies, create the unbestowed version).

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    3. Stone Rain will never see power creep because even 3-mana basic land LD is unfun for casual & Standard players.

    I'm disappointed Hasbro hasn't found a way to make Lands modify Enchantments yet.

    Or a Bestow-Walker that can either enter as a planeswalker or enchant a planeswalker to add abilities and loyalty (when that planeswalker dies, create the unbestowed version).
    As a smallpox player the complete lack of any kind of mana efficient land destruction makes me sad. I know some people don't like land destruction, but eternal formats should have every archetype.. control, prison, combo, etc.

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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    "Dem kids today like dem stranger things so lets to that."

    Considering they are so devoid of any interesting ideas they have to run out of things to steal from given the ever increasing speed of product releases.
    So what you are saying is you want Core sets back, right? Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    So what you are saying is you want Core sets back, right? Right?
    Actually and unironically yes.
    Then they can stop printing functionally identical cards with minor tweaks which are sometimes related to the set gimmick.
    I'm aware that it won't stop them from doing so but it would be nice to not have a 5-10 dual lands, a wrath effect, a Lightning Strike, etc every set because that eats slots and makes standard boring AF.
    It would also massively improve the new player experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    It would also massively improve the new player experience.
    How would that improve the purchase of Commander Precons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    I'm aware that it won't stop them from doing so but it would be nice to not have a 5-10 dual lands, a wrath effect, a Lightning Strike, etc every set because that eats slots and makes standard boring AF.
    But that's called "design space".

    Design space, noun: A strategy that reduces their creative workload by needing to design ~50 fewer unique cards each block. Recycling old cards with trivial changes to print free money.

    If Lightning Strike is reprinted in a Core set, players can use their old copies in Standard. If it's replaced by Lightening Stroke, Standard players must all buy the new card, and Commander players get an extra copy to run. Free money.

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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    So what you are saying is you want Core sets back, right? Right?
    Eventually they’re going to be forced to acknowledge that the old rotation system was basically correct and needed at most slight tweaking; going several years between core sets is actually pretty reasonable.

    But this current system of just printing whatever whenever is dogshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Blood View Post
    How would that improve the purchase of Commander Precons?
    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    But that's called "design space".

    Design space, noun: A strategy that reduces their creative workload by needing to design ~50 fewer unique cards each block. Recycling old cards with trivial changes to print free money.

    If Lightning Strike is reprinted in a Core set, players can use their old copies in Standard. If it's replaced by Lightening Stroke, Standard players must all buy the new card, and Commander players get an extra copy to run. Free money.
    *some funny smiley here*

    I've been playing with mostly new players recently who also want to play commander.
    None of the current products are really suitable for them because everything is so mechanically complex.
    A core set would be ideal and would also allow them to build a card pool to build multiple decks from.
    Given the rate with which they try to drain their existing player base, the have to look into getting new players.
    Just playing on arena isn't good enough to let them learn the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Eventually they’re going to be forced to acknowledge that the old rotation system was basically correct and needed at most slight tweaking; going several years between core sets is actually pretty reasonable.

    But this current system of just printing whatever whenever is dogshit
    You mean like developing mechanics over the course of multiple consecutive sets?

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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

    Guys, as a Hasbro shareholder, I'd appreciate it if you stopped discussing the health of the game and all that nonsense and just give me money.
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    Gross, other formats. I puked in my mouth a little.

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    Re: [DSK] Duskmourn-ing a day without a new set

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    Actually and unironically yes.
    Yeah, I actually think that from a "health and sustainability of the game" standpoint, it's the right thing to do. It's why it was done in the first place, really.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Eventually they’re going to be forced to acknowledge that the old rotation system was basically correct and needed at most slight tweaking; going several years between core sets is actually pretty reasonable.

    But this current system of just printing whatever whenever is dogshit
    Yeah, the "joke" is that Wizards knows this and have even let it on at times, but yeah, I think it is very likely they are totally powerless to really do anything in the face of what is likely corporate mandates from Hasbro.

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Guys, as a Hasbro shareholder, I'd appreciate it if you stopped discussing the health of the game and all that nonsense and just give me money.
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    If magic stops making money we might have to up the license fee on Monopoly and we can't have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Guys, as a Hasbro shareholder, I'd appreciate it if you stopped discussing the health of the game and all that nonsense and just give me money.
    Why in the actual fuck would you own that pile of dogshit propped up solely by the vivsection of MTG? I genuinely do not understand why Hasbro stockholders haven't chased the current management team out with a pack of wild dogs.

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