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Last edited by kabal; 09-11-2006 at 09:07 PM.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." --Ash
I just love the fact that they call Truffle Shuffle GWB Control and leave Eon Blue Apoc alone.
Mythic Rogue Deck Builder
Team Freshly Baked Crayons
Team Albany
What is everyone think of the Vial Affinity build:
Artifacts
4 Aether Vial
3 Cranial Plating
4 Terrarion
Artifact Creatures
4 Arcbound Ravager
4 Arcbound Worker
4 Frogmite
2 Myr Servitor
2 Ornithopter
Artifact Lands
1 Darksteel Citadel
Creatures
3 Atog
4 Disciple Of The Vault
Instants
3 Fling
Lands
2 Blinkmoth Nexus
Sorceries
4 Thoughtcast
Artifact Lands
2 Ancient Den
4 Great Furnace
4 Seat Of The Synod
4 Vault Of Whispers
Lands
2 Glimmervoid
Allot closer to what I normally run, except s/Myr Servitor/Myr Enforcer/. Not sure if Sevitor was a mistake in adding the list to SCG or if they really playing it.
I think Thoughtcast is a must... never quite sure how the builds running green for Berserk can reliably draw in since it is also in the form of 2s.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." --Ash
Will these lists be on the main page?
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." --Ash
Anusien & his consistency :) Gotta love that naming convention, cuz Eon Blue Apocalypse obviously describes the deck purpose to a T. And the irony is that the deck was originally proposed by Roopey, a Virginian & proud member of the "I got banned everywhere for being An Ass Club"
TL,DR: if you think Saito is ok, check your moral compass. It may be broken. - Spikey Mikey, amen brother
WE know what the price of progress is (often 8-10 life). - Cait Sith
A casual stasis deck? You must not really like your friends. Do you play it before or after you pull the wings off of flys and microwave the neighbor's cat? - EwokSlayer
Am I the only one that noticed that that deck is in no way, shape, or form, Eon Blue Apocolypse?
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
The other Faerie Stompy-deck in Top 16... I mean, Quicksilver Dragon? WTF? No, seriously, Quicksilver Dragon? It wasn't even played in T2! Oh, and Fabricate? With Quicksilver Dragon? WTF!
EDIT: Oh yea, 23 lands. O.o? I wanna chat with that fellow.
Well, it's bigger than Werebear, dodges StP and flies. And it's legitimately badass.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
It's closer to EBA than Roopey's list is. For reference, here is an ancient thread about the deck (from 2002), and the relevant list:
Now, I don't know the history of EBA, but this is the oldest thread on it I could find on The Mana Drain, and I think it's pretty safe to say that Roopey didn't create it and that Rob Costanza took more inspiration from the Vintage lists than from Roopey's. Roopey's deck is just another Gro list, anyway.//EBA (Eon Blue Apocalypse)
//The Mana (cover your eyes, its bad)
4 Island
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Flooded Strand
1 Adakar Wastes
1 Underground River
1 Gemstone Mine (it gets a little better after this)
4 City of Brass
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
//I'm Playing WW/u!
2 Savannah Lions
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Meddling Mage
1 Dismantling Blow
//I'm playing mono-u!
3 Ophidian
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Fact or Fiction
3 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
//I'm playing sui!
4 Duress
4 Phyrexian Negator
2 Chainer's Edict
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
2 Vindicate (didn't fit anywhere else)
That said, I agree that Anusien is a douche not to call Truffle Shuffle by its name.
EDIT: Another old link.
Well, he at least took the time to input them into SGC database, which im sure is a manual process. For that some thanks should be given.Originally Posted by Obfuscate Freely
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." --Ash
That's just too much work to physically. There has to be a way to just cut and paste certain aspects of the decklist together. You should have a list of general cards/decks listed off then all you need to do is just cut/paste the basics with a little bit of typing for all of the weird stuff you get like Quicksilver Dragon.
Mythic Rogue Deck Builder
Team Freshly Baked Crayons
Team Albany
Well as an example I have a general list for Goblins, and what I have is a notepad doc with the general list on it but it doesn't have numbers (ie. ' Goblin Matron') All I would do is just plug in the numbers and just add in the oddball cards that pop out. Especially since SCG has the deck database/generator it especially shouldn't be difficult to just plug in a name (especially since his naming convention should help with this, since it's all his stuff) and he gets a general list/ recent list.
Mythic Rogue Deck Builder
Team Freshly Baked Crayons
Team Albany
I thought the build of your affinity list is a very decent one. I do have some concerns with 14 color cards used in the main deck. I believe the right number and the number that has worked for me very well in the past is a range from 8-12 color cards excluding lands. You always want a very high artifact count in the deck, since the deck is Affinity after all.
I do prefer the Berserk version of the deck, just because of the quicker win factor. I do agree that sometimes your hand is sub par and thoughtcast would be very good to see in your hand.
If I ran thoughtcast, I would go with my basic core (you guys should know what it is by now) and cut 2 berserks, and 2 pithing needle md for 4 thoughtcast. Also the 4 tree of tales would be replaced by 4 seat of the synod, but I guess you would figure that out.
A lot of people would make the argurment that while Berserk and Pithing Needle may be good in some matchups, Thoughtcast is probably good all the time. I can't really argue with that point.
I have found myself just winning a lot of games on the back of Berserk alone, so that probably why I favor that version more. Either version is very good in my opinion. You do lose naturalize by cutting green, which I found to be handy a lot of times while sideboarding.
PM me if you would like and I can send you my current list. I just didn't think posting added lists would add a lot to the discussion in this thread.
Great Job on the tournament and hope to see maybe one day: Affinity as a Deck to Beat.
~Shriek~
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." --Ash
Oh man, <3 ObfuscateFreely. Yep, I'm a douche alright. Actually the first time I saw the GWB list was before I ever read about it on the Source, had no idea what to call it, and named it GWB Control. If I ever get the chance to go back and fix all the names of the lists like I plan to, I may change it. I'm not sure to what though, since the arguments about consistency don't hold. The "Truffle Shuffle" lists tend to be radically different, even through events.
I was actually really struggling to figure out what to call that EBA list. It has only the same strategy and few cards in common with traditional EBA, but it has very few of the elements we associate with Fish today (Vial, Standstill, manlands). It's definitely not 3C Angel Stompy. It might end up being Fish, but I'll evaluate that later once I get more of the lists in.
Yes, I get the lists on paper, and type them up. As far as I know, that's how everyone does it. I could keep a Goblins list, a Threshold list, and a few others handy, but you're discouting a few things: #1) filling in numbers for that would take longer than just typing them in, #2) people run weird decklists. The time consuming part of this is not physically typing the decks. The more time consuming parts are looking at the list to get the name (and double checking to follow convention on Survival lists, combo lists, stuff like that), getting the name and placement of the player right, and then reading the lists. Want to make judges and me fall in love with you, and facilitate tournaments? Type your lists. A few of you do this for the SCG events (<3) but no one did it for TML. Not only does it really slow me down if I have to figure out what the hell you wrote, but most of you write these at the absolute last minute, so it's all illegible scrawl.
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