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    [Deck] Classic Suicide Black - No hatreds, though.

    I must say that I'm a huge fan of suicide black. I've been trying to revive it in legacy since the days of old type 1.5. Here's the current list.

    4 Carnophage
    4 Sarcomancy
    4 Withered Wetch
    4 Nantuko Shade
    4 Dark confidant

    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Sinkhole
    4 Duress
    4 Cabal theraphy

    2 Umezawa's Zitte
    4 Smother

    4 Wasteland
    11 Swamp
    3 chrome mox

    Sideboard

    3 Pithing Needle
    4 Engineered plague
    2 darkblast
    4 hymn to torach
    2 Powder Keg

    Explainations for some card choices:

    The 1 cc Zombies: Well, I'm aware of the fact that using slower but less fragile creatures are probably better way to go. However, Sui balck without the zombies does not feel like a sui black. The basic game plan is to devote your first few turns on dropping creatures and back it up with disruptions, so the cheap zomebies are a must in this deck.

    Withered wretch: A metagame call. Hoses just about anything that depends on graveyard.

    Nantuko Shade: Only creature in the deck that is capable of sealing the deal alone. Also works well with lategame dark ritual.

    Dark Confidant: One and only cardadvantage engine in the deck. I seriously danced around my room when I new that they were going to print this card. A 2/1 beatstick to boot.

    Dark Ritual: Tempo given by the ritual is the heart of this deck.

    Sinkhole: The best Black LD. This slot used to be devoted to hymns, but land destruction proved much more useful. with some help with wasteland, It really drupts the opponents mana base.

    Duress: The best pinpoint discard in the game. Period.

    Cabal Theraphy: This is better than hymn in a deck with 20 creatures.

    Umezawa's Zitte: This is surprisingly easy to cast, even with 18 mana. Sometimes it just becomes huge nuisance for tempo, makes the scroll looking better in the spot. However, Cursed scroll need you to reach 3 mana, which is hard to achieve somtimes.

    Smother: I couldn't find better option for the spot. Only other possible card that can replace it is vendtta.

    Mana base: I sacrificed mana consistancy for threat density. The deck can run with 2 black source, though. 18 was a comprimise between the two.

    The sideboad: Dependent on meta, but the one above says, "I hate gobbos and Chaleces"

    Matchups:

    Goblins: A really bad matchup. Their removal is more eficiant than mine, and their card advantage engine is better than mine. The sole reason that this deck is not viable is that It folds to goblins and random burns. 30/70 at most.

    Solidarity: Autowin. You run 12 discards (including SB) and 4 LDs. And your creatures are fast enough. Never lost the matchup yet. 70/30 or better

    Threshold: 50/50 against UGW, 40/60 aginst UGR This matchup was better back when I was playing with the Edict maindeck.

    Other Combos: Unless they go off on turn 1 or 2, This deck usually do well against combo. generally 60/40 or better.

    Blue based control: Landstill is 50/50, but MUC and other blue based control is much easier to beat. 55/45 or greater.

    Burn: Almost an autoloss. With just enough discards and LD, You might have a chance, but that's rare.

    Fish/other aggro control: This deck seems to be a slightly faster than the other decks, and have an advantage because of that. 50/50, with slight advantage on this side.

    Well, That's it. I'd like to hear your thoughs on the deck, the one that I was taking care of since it was type 2 legal.

    EDIT:

    After some discussion, I realized that the whole design behind the build on the above is oudated and not suited for the current metagame without control.
    Hence the new list:

    4 Carnophage
    4 Sarcomancy
    4 Nantuko Shade
    4 Dark confidant
    4 Phyrexyan negator

    4 Dark Ritual

    4 Duress
    4 Hymn to Torach

    3 Cursed scroll
    4 Smother

    4 Wasteland
    14 Swamp
    3 chrome mox

    Little more consistancy on Mana base and Inclusion of negator and scroll make this deck little more reliable.
    Last edited by C.P.; 12-14-2006 at 01:56 PM.
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