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    Slide in SCG Commentator Quality

    So, I realize that losing PSully is bad, and CeddyP wants to play some cards, but I am pretty sure that every.single.match. I have watched in the last 2 months has something in the commentary that makes me want to stab myself in the eye with a cocktail fork. Standard is pretty terrible to watch anyways, but Legacy...

    I finally have time to catch up on Philly, and most of the way through Day 1, I am not really sure I even want to watch Day 2. It's mentally painful to hear discussion on the format from Boswell, and CVM has no real presence.

    It's like instead of a Color Guy and a Stats guy, we ended up with 2 stats guys that DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW ANY STATS.

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    Re: Slide in SCG Commentator Quality

    Boswell does well enough for Modern.

    CVM needs to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual View Post
    Boswell does well enough for Modern.

    CVM needs to go.
    At least official coverage is good. The usual team (with the fellow with a British or South African accent?) is quite good, and even when they pull in the second-string, it's OK. LSV and that lady doing the finals at the last GP were fine, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual View Post
    CVM needs to go.
    So I'm not the only one that got tired of listening to him rag on the elemental tokens 5x a match?

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    Is Sullivan gone permanetly? Why did he leave?

    I really liked him as a comentator. Him and Cedy were the best pair by far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miagi View Post
    Is Sullivan gone permanetly? Why did he leave?

    I really liked him as a comentator. Him and Cedy were the best pair by far.

    He took a full time job with, like, Activision.
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    Most of the 'Ban brainstorm!' arguments are based on the logic that 'more different cards should get played in Legacy', as though the success or health of the format can be measured by the portion of cards that are available and see play. This is an idiotic metric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miagi View Post
    Is Sullivan gone permanetly? Why did he leave?

    I really liked him as a comentator. Him and Cedy were the best pair by far.

    He realized he could be doing better things with his life than SCG coverage and took a job offer from Activision, presumably in their eSports division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiSchafroth View Post
    So I'm not the only one that got tired of listening to him rag on the elemental tokens 5x a match?
    Who cares about the tokens. Hearing them tell bad beat stories from "back in the day" ie a couple years ago at a SCG Open, Sullivan and Cedric would at least tell a tale about the junior super series or something... oh and not knowing what cards are or do was the hard part.

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    Good call on CVM not knowing cards. If I, someone who started playing Legacy 2 years ago, can ID a card by just a flash, someone with as many years under their belt as CVM should be able to, too.
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    I watched snippets of coverage when I had time/could make myself, and there was one particularly painful moment when one of the players, with an empty hand, drew his card for the turn and kept the drawn card conspicuously displayed for the camera so long as he retained it, and both commentators were on a tear of...

    "WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HE DREW BECAUSE IF IT'S THIS THEN WOAH BUDDY WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT HE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY DRAWN I DON'T KNOW BUT SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN HIS HAND I HOPE IT'S THIS CARD OR THAT CARD STAY TUNED OH THE SUSPENSE."

    Like, even if you don't play Legacy... really?
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    Best part was after Van Meter clearly said reserved list cards won't be in EMA he asked Boswell what he wanted to see reprinted. Boswells response was Chains of Mephistopheles
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    I liked the girl doing commentary at the GP, she seemed like she was at least semi professionally trained. I also thought it was a good compliment between her letting LSV do the analysis and then filling in the dead space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [SLAYER]chaos View Post
    I liked the girl doing commentary at the GP, she seemed like she was at least semi professionally trained. I also thought it was a good compliment between her letting LSV do the analysis and then filling in the dead space.
    GP <> SCG, unless it's a SCG GP. The ggslive GP coverage is way worse than SCG's and always has been because Wizards is so stingy and insular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [SLAYER]chaos View Post
    I also thought it was a good compliment between her letting LSV do the analysis and then filling in the dead space.
    This is how it should be, like with every other professional sporting telecast: one play-by-play, one color commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumC View Post
    LSV and that lady doing the finals at the last GP were fine, for example.
    That was Gaby Spartz, and she did a great job in the booth with LSV. LSV was good, as always. WOTC needs to give Marshall Sutcliffe the boot and replace him with Gaby.

    With SCG's coverage, I felt CVM did a much better job overall than Boswell. I concur with Ellomdian's criticism. Half the time I found myself muting the audio in frustration. Still, I prefer poor Legacy coverage to no Legacy coverage.

    Does anyone know what happened with Craig Krempels? He was a buddy of Patrick Sullivan's and had a strong first showing, even getting rewarded with Reddit praise:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/co...st_day_in_the/

    I haven't seen him since, but I haven't been watching much non-Legacy coverage. Did he split when Cedric stepped out of the booth?

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    The not cvm guy on the loam deck bringing in chalice, "chalice of the void on 2 is key here" ... for the loam deck. They also watched a guy Force a Crop Rotation when the other dude had a chalice on one and was cheating. They lauded the force as a good play for 2 minutes. Fucking miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESG View Post
    Does anyone know what happened with Craig Krempels? He was a buddy of Patrick Sullivan's and had a strong first showing, even getting rewarded with Reddit praise:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/co...st_day_in_the/

    I haven't seen him since, but I haven't been watching much non-Legacy coverage. Did he split when Cedric stepped out of the booth?
    That coverage team was great! I wish they did all the Legacy events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhale View Post
    Who cares about the tokens. Hearing them tell bad beat stories from "back in the day" ie a couple years ago at a SCG Open, Sullivan and Cedric would at least tell a tale about the junior super series or something... oh and not knowing what cards are or do was the hard part.
    I should have added a Kappa in there...my main issue is the card/format knowledge piece of course.

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    they have like one legacy open a season, its pretty much an afterthought. The commentators are just there to struggle through the one event then its back to the usual fare.

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    Re: Slide in SCG Commentator Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by ESG View Post
    Craig Krempels. I haven't seen him since, but I haven't been watching much non-Legacy coverage. Did he split when Cedric stepped out of the booth?
    Cedric and Craig Krempels are the coverage guys for SCG Baltimore on April 10th.

    If only there was a way to check these sorts of things before making ridiculous comments and assumptions.

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