Quote Originally Posted by twndomn View Post
Deluge is Not a good card for Miracles against dnt, not even close. It would cost 4 under Thalia via sorcery speed, paying life for creature removal effect is borderline useless when you could have done the same by casting K. Return without the additional cost, and being an instant to get over R. Port.

Some people like the idea of Thoughtseize in the so-called Esper Miracles, I'm not buying it.
You did not understand me, probably.
Compared to the UW version, having a card like deluge is an extra aspect. In the MU vs d&t it is strong because it has a different CC from terminus with regard to sanctum prelate (as well as kozilek's return, yes).
It is obvious that deluge is less strong than kozilek's return vs d&t, but we need to make a broader comparison.
If we consider the introduction of a new, and potentially very strong card which is the new PW, we can adapt to replace kozilek's return with deluge and pyroblast with thoughtseize, I believe. That's all. :)