@ Misplayer
I haven't been arguing about specific decks in your or my meta. This is about the average.
Average Dreadstill Manabase:The Dreadstill I'm referring to is the Ugr build, where the only non-blue cards maindeck are Goyf and EE. This deck is also a control deck that can go "oops I win" with Stifle-Nought and can also go Aggro with an early Goyf or two.
3.96- Island
3.04- Flooded Strand
2.80 - Polluted Delta
(Only 3.96 fetches maximum can be used for Islands, assuming you drew no Islands, leaving 1.88 for Duals)
3.78 - Mishra's Factory
2.99 - Wasteland
1.13 - Volcanic Island
1.50 - Tropical Island
Well over half the mana-base gets rocked by B2B. B2B is a strong tempo play against Dreadstill. Does that mean you will win because of B2B? No. But, it is certainly devastating enough to buy time for MUC to generate massive card advantage under the asymmetry of B2B's effect.
B2B forces Dreadstill into a bottleneck, and it weakens several cards and synergies in the process, including the sideboard.
Countertop is devastating. And, one of MUC's best shots at winning is by using B2B. B2B cuts off the value of Countertop and Standstill, while enabling MUC to more than double the amount of mana that would be available to the Dreadstill player at any point in the game.
Mana resources win counterwars. Mana resources let you chain bomb. Mana advantage is the catalyst to the snowball of card advantage that the control player seeks.
Not true.I completely agree, but in order for Islandwalk to be relevant in this situation, they need to resolve 2 Lords of Atlantis.
Lord of Atlantis
Creature - Merfolk 2/2, UU (2)
Other Merfolk creatures get +1/+1 and have islandwalk.
Without a sweeper, you are screwed if LoA hits play. Period.
With countermagic and Vial, they have good odds of resolving/abusing it.
@ Pelikanudo
Averages from 225 Loam decks:Vs Loam : -4 B2B -4 F.Spike - 3 Kira : +4Powder K, +4Relic + 3Vendilion
3.06222222222 - Forgotten Cave
3.10222222222 - Taiga
2.73777777778 - Tranquil Thicket
3.60888888889 - Wasteland
1.02666666667 - Badlands
0.951111111111 - Bayou
0.697777777778 - Volrath's Stronghold
1.95111111111 - Bloodstained Mire
3.54666666667 - Wooded Foothills
0.524444444444 - Windswept Heath
1.36888888889 - Forest
1.0 - Mountain
3.87555555556 - Mox Diamond
You take out B2B against that?
peace,
4eak
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