Quote Originally Posted by klaus View Post
Haha! I like that.
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So yeah, comparing Jace 2.0 to FoF/Jace 1.0 appears to be the right approach to evaluate its power.
Personally, I've been more than happy with the old Jace, playing him as a 2/3-of in a SpeedWalkerStill shell. FoF never felt like a wincondition, while Jace seems to win the game quite frequently if he resolves.
So for me it's rather an old Jace VS. new Jace issue.
I haven't tested him yet, but I'm a 100% positive that this guy is insane.
Being able to cast a free BS every turn, without even having to spend loyalty counters? Heck, I'd most likely include him as a 2-of even if this was his only ability!
I'll even go as far as to predict that he'll be adapted by just as many other archetypes as Elspeth, only with a little less delay.
Who knows maybe Lorescale Coatl will be playable afterall.
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@ Gustha:
Yeah, I also like the fact that Jace the Mindsculptor is almost EE prove. It's happened a couple of times that I had to blow up my own just to get rid of opposing B2Bs and stuff.
If left unchecked, this jace will do disasters. I'm actually testing it as a 1-of in the MD of my UWr SpeedWalkerstill (lolz, great name! ), in the place of my 3rd jace1.0. I'd maybe add another copy sb for control MU's. The fact is, I'm a bit disappointed with his cc, though the fact he doesn't die to EE it's great. I mean, old jace can be cast on t3-4 (if you suspect daze) with eot swords to be sure you have the coast clear to cast it and tap out safe the next turn. This comes down on t4-5 and the chance you have to spend another spot removal to tap out safe is kinda annoying. As what concerns loyalty, the difference between going -1 with a cc3 jace of going 0 with the cc4 one is hardly noticeable: they both die to "bolt" (or nacatl, exalted pridemage, etc. etc.).

It's unsummon ability is not at instant speed, and this is annoying as well. ok, cast it on turn4-5 and then unsummon, you are tapped out. Good to do against aggrocontrol (but the Mu should be in landstill favour's anyway, if no black is in sight), but with a resolved vial? Unsummon your lord and then you find it on the table eot as well? I'd rather keep a mana to swords the guy. Marit lage? If your opponent is stupid to combo off in his turn and not in your eot, then the trick should work.

I mean, brainstorm ability is good. The first one is even good, if the coast is clear and you are in recursion with EE or you have in other ways a good board control, you can dare to reach the ultimate, it will win faster than elspeth.

Was it cc3, it would've replace suddenly old jace. But for his actual cost, for the moment is deserves only 1 slot for me. (But maybe it's I'm too fond of old jace. I should maybe replace all the 3 copies with the new one, and test how many times I'd want old jace instead.)

EDIT: I'm already testing it in counterbant (no coatl, his first ability is better in that archetype) and in blue stax. Wincon + free brainstorm among chalices spheres wires etc.? check!