Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
There's basically no excuse not to run Wish if you're running 8 mana lords. It obviates so much need to actually find/resolve Glimpse, much more so than Pact or GSZ which can't straight up win when you're producing a shit ton of mana.

And if you're not going for the Vengevine or NO plan you really need 8 mana lords, as you're not going to be able to reliably play Glimpses in Misstep.metagame.

If nothing else, do as Ruckus said and run 2-3 L. Wish where you would normally run Cradles/Emrakuls. The only absolutely necessary Wish targets are those two, Regal Force and Symbiote. Not that I know what the Hell you're going to board against Deedstill that's going to significantly improve that matchup.
It appears people are talking about the use of Living Wish in completely different Elves builds.

From what you're saying with respect to using Living Wish w/ a build having 8 mana lords...I assume your list is more centered around hard-casting Emrakul with mana Lords and untap effects from Ranger/Symbiote....in which Living Wish is leaned on for Cradle and Emrakul, mainly?

I'm talking about Living Wish and its use in a more combo-oriented build (more Glimpse-centric).

I assume you like the Living Wish/mana generation build for Emrakul as it attemps to side-step Mental Misstep (on Glimpse) more by way of 2 and 3 mana lords? That sort of build would seem to do that, but seems to be much slower in its potential turn to "go-off".

Correct me if I'm wrong on my assumptions, but I'm trying to get a basis so we're all talking on the same baseline.

And Buried Alive/Vengevine is very difficult for BUG lists to beat games 2 and 3 if resolved.