So I've been trying to find a good Tempo deck with black. I've tried Grixis without much success (really, Tarmo is good in Tempo...).

I've read the last few pages of this thread, and I want to give TA (in its purest Tempo version) a try in this meta.

I have a few questions:

- how do you find Liliana? so far I've been rather disappointed. She comes in late, and the discard effect isn't always that great. I'm tempted to remove them both for the 4th Tombstalker (God I love this card) and something else.

- for the removals: snuff out is good, but is probably not a 4 of. I've been trying to find another 2 or 3 removals MD with mana cost 1 or less (Submerge is certainly sideboard material). I like having a Darkblast (as the 5th removal probably), it's quite good with 4 stalkers. Now I need another 2. Pulse is very good but very very slow. Demise doesn't go very well with the stalkers. So I've been thinking, maybe 1 or 2 Disfigure? it deals with Delver/Stoneforge and a large part of Maverick's guys. It's good during a Tarmo/Tarmo fight. What do you think? I'll test them anyway, just like to have your thoughts.

-have you all dropped stifle? I don't like the bad synergy with the discard (ie tapping out for Thoughseize T1), but it deals with Terminus, which might become really relevant in the next few weeks.

- how do you find Hymn in this meta? I really find Thouseize/IoK/Duress better now, to take the exact piece we want (StP, Batterskull, S&T, etc). And if we play a very Tempo oriented version of TA, pin-point discard seems better.