Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
Benie, I fooled with this enough to echo the problems you faced concerning opposing counterspells. It is a big problem. I found that I could safely use all five colors though, and I just used Raven's Crime to rip their hands apart. I, too had to stop using the RIP kill though. It is a tough call, but at the least, you can swap out RIP for Crime when facing blue.
Wow, and I'm uncertain about my 2-colour manabase. I would like to see that list.

I have tried Raven's Crime in a build, but it was never what I wanted. In my testing it was to slow and to dependent to much on Land Tax. I had the choice in controlling the board or the handsize and more often then not I ended up doing them both half. I'm no trying to fight blue with more threads and Red Elemental Blast in the side. With Rest in Peace out of the MD I could try Raven's Crime again.

Quote Originally Posted by nedleeds View Post
Why are you playing Land Tax with wasteland? Make a white prison deck with Chalice with that mana base.
I was talking about a Stax build with Land Tax. With Stax Crucible of Worlds seems an auto-include. Adding Wasteland wouldn't be a bad idea.

Note that I don't play a Stax build, nor am I building one, but this is probably where I start.

Quote Originally Posted by (nameless one) View Post
This got posted at Everyday Eternal

List by Sean O'Brien (aka the Nether Void guy):
[Business] [35]
2 Enlightened Tutor
4 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Humility
2 Lightning Bolt
2 Terminus
2 Bonfire of the Damned
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Trading Post
1 Rest in Peace
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Ajani Vengeant
2 Armageddon
3 Scroll Rack
4 Land Tax
4 Burning Wish

[Mana Sources] [25]
4 Mox Diamond
1 Karakas
4 Arid Mesa
3 Marsh Flats
3 Plateau
9 Plains
1 Mountain

[Sideboard] [15]
1 Pithing Needle
3 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Boiling Seas
1 Shattering Spree
1 Terminus
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Tremor
1 Pyroclasm
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Ruination
1 Red Sun’s Zenith
1 Tariff
1 Cataclysm


It's rough but it emphasizes Burning Wish, something that I have discussed at MTGSalvation mirror thread before. Hopefully we hear more from him about this.
This seems like a build that's awesome on paper but awful in real. But it's a list that isn't tested properly, so it might work. If I got time I proxy it up and test it.

@ Pelikanudo
I thought you where building a Burning Wish version. How did it end up, what do you think of the list?

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