Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
A build without Plated is going to get raped by 1st turn Lackey a lot more often; that is a stone cold fact.
I'm not so sure of that. I mean, we have Force for Lackey if we absolutely need to, and we also run Stifle and Swords to Plowshares as a 4-of. Even without Plated Sliver, we can proably still answer a Lackey on the draw consistently. Sure, it might soften our position against Lackey a little, but probably not as much as you're suggesting.

Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
I had a situation last night in my Gro match, where I had a Crystalline, Muscle, and Plated in play, while my opponent had a Nimble Mongoose. I was able to get in a couple swings with the Crystalline because of those XL pants.
I'll admit, fat asses against other creatures of similar size is pretty great, but you know what else is? First strike. If you replace that Plated Sliver with a Talon Sliver (perhaps we should push it up to 4) in tha situation, you can still swing unabated.

Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
Keep in mind that Mav was also 3-0 in that tournament last night, and it sounds to me like he lost that 4th match primarily due to play mistakes (no offense, Mav. I make plenty.). Mav probably should have won, simply because he was playing more slivers. I honestly think we may be taking a step backwards here. However, in the spirit of fairness, let's playtest whatever new version you guys want to try out.
I'll admit, this deck is really good as is, and you could probably run Plated Sliver with relatively spectacular results, but I'm really just trying new ideas to see what it is that pushes it from 'really good' to 'Tier 1'.

[quote = Hanni]It takes time for a deck to become considered Tier 1, regardless of whether or not the deck is simply amazing. It's also largely dependant on its popularity throughout the entire Legacy community as a whole.
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Well, okay. Tier 1 after a while .