I'm curious what you all are searching for with Intent. I found that I was always searching for removal if I was behind or a creature if I was ahead (I can see Sneak attack fitting here). If I was searching for a land I am probably going to lose anyway even though I was able to search for a land. And when I was behind the removal was bad because it required a sacrifice and two extra mana. For this reason I started running more removal so that I would have less times where I was behind in this way. And also I switched to living wish because Shriekmaw and Vampire Hexmage were nice removal spells in a deck with Two Towers. Alongside Wasteland and a fatty and Living Wish can cover a lot of bases. It uses sideboard slots but you can regain some of that with thoughtful boarding. Boarding Faerie Macabre in place of a Surgical Extraction for example.
On Intent: G1 removal, G2/3 either removal or silver bullets from the SB.
This was also the case at least 75% of the time when I ran 4 Intent in a combo oriented build.
Originally Posted by cavalrywolfpack
So i finally got somewhat of a deck together and I'm gonna try it for real for the first time tomorrow. I've been testing versus Delver, Death n taxes and Grixis control with good results. My friends refer to this pile as the Würm-machine (should be said with german accent) which i think was awesome! It proved to be rather consistent.
Some notes: in my testing sterling grove was the worst card so i replaced it with more interaction. This may be totally wrong. The sideboard should probably include gsz targets such as teeg but i didn't get hold of any. I'd like to try dovescape in the side but didn't get hold of that either.
I'll let you wurmmachiners know how it went!
Counts : 60 main / 15 sideboard
Creatures:8
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Academy Rector
Spells:30
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Fatal Push
3 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Collective Brutality
3 Evolutionary Leap
2 Lingering Souls
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Garruk Relentless
1 Nether Void
1 Curse of Death's Hold
1 Starfield of Nyx
1 Sandwurm Convergence
Lands:22
2 Bayou
3 Forest
2 Phyrexian Tower
1 Plains
2 Savannah
1 Scrubland
3 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
Sideboard:15
1 Carpet of Flowers
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Thoughtseize
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Golgari Charm
1 Seal of Primordium
1 Choke
2 Lost Legacy
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Humility
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Leyline of the Void
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Is the Vengevine, LOTV, Punishing Fire "combo" too janky? Or is it too value?
It's normal. Jund has been doing that since 2012 or something, and the last report showed it has a 63% win ratio in that tournament. Vengevine may be dumb, but if you can find a way to get dudes who give you more dudes (Squadron hawk el oh el?) then you should be able to meet his condition reliably.
Mwonvuli Beast Tracker tutoring Gnarlwood Dryad for instance. I get that that is dumb, but I'm just looking for jank that triggers Vengevine. Gravecrawler is a great one. That with the Carrion Feeder combo is an easy way to do it.
BBE cascade into a creatures works. Also intuition for Vengevine seems stupid (stupid value that is).
Holy crap. I think you just convinced me that adding Vengevine to RUG Waterfalls is a good idea. And intuition with that would also be hilarious/stupid haha
I've been considering a janky "Nic Falls" or "RUG Nic Fit' which would use things like Arc Trail or PFire (or crop-rotation->Tower) to kill him, and get to do the "Waterfalls" thing on T2 sometimes. Combining that with some card-filtering that drops dudes in the grave could make a wonderful VV engine; which I would love because I bought them 4-5 years ago and never found a use for them haha
EDIT: Also bad, but could work: Burning-Tree Emissary [mana for another dude.] AND HORNED KAVU.
Oh man. Casual could be comin' to legacy.
I would be very thankfull if some of you would see through my Decklist for things i could improve. It is very stock as far as i know.
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Eternal Witness
1 Fierce Empath
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 Thragtusk
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Inferno Titan
1 Woodland Bellower
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Diabolic Intent
1 Toxic Deluge
4 Sneak Attack
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Sylvan Library
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Phyrexian Tower
1 Volraths Stronghold
2 Bayou
1 Taiga
2 Badlands
1 Savannah
3 Forest
2 Mountain
2 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Wooded Foothills
The Savannah is for a SB(maybe MB) Nahiri. i don`t know but i like to have her in case of a surgicaled sneak.
Bahaha that's one of my favorite cards.
My Burning-Tree, Horned Kavu, 8-Whack deck is legit son!
Legacy's the format for dreams. Just the other day I had my infect opponent stare at a Dragonlord Dromoka and realize that his inkmoth nexus was going to be blocked by a goddamn 6 drop to buy me the one extra turn for Siege Rhino to be lethal.
I'm just going to post my old list as it is hilarious.
Should proba ly have an extra witness maindeck, and a canonist in sideboard.
So many options while playing the deck was fun to play
creatures (6)
1 x eternal witness
1 x primeval titan
1 x qasili pridemage
2 x veteran explorer
1 x wall of blossoms
enchantment (3)
3 x pernicious deed
instant (5)
1 x counterspell
4 x intuition
lands (24)
1 x barren moor
1 x bayou
1 x flooded strand
2 x forest
2 x island
1 x marsh flats
1 x misty rainforest
1 x phyrexian tower
1 x plains
1 x polluted delta
1 x savannah
1 x scrubland
2 x swamp
1 x tanquil thicket
1 x tropical island
1 x tundra
1 x underground sea
2 x verdant catacombs
1 x volrath's stronghold
1 x wasteland
planeswalker (3)
3 x jace, the mind sculptor
sorcery (20)
4 x cabal therapy
1 x crippling fatigue
1 x deep analysis
2 x green sun's zenith
1 x life from the loam
3 x lingering souls
4 x living wish
1 x raven's crime
1 x regrowth
1 x unburial rites
1 x vindicate
sideboard
veteran explorer
eternal witness
shriekmaw
phantasmal image
soul snuffers
spike weaver
quasili pridemage
kitchen finks
phyrexian revoker
grave titan
rest in peace
bojuka bog
phyrexian tower
volrath's stronghold
wasteland
@Ugotpauld: congratulations! That must be the most extravagant list posted all year. Could you describe the fair and combo matchup gameplans? And I was surprised to not find Depths+Stage.
Also, please add cards-tags so we can read the cards, at least I need to look up a couple of them! :)
Last edited by pettdan; 05-24-2017 at 05:43 AM.
Regarding Dryad Arbor: Can't remember if the most recently posted Nyx Fit list was running it, but I've been impressed with initial results after including one. Basically adds ~9 more ways to start Evo Leap chain thanks to the fetches. Random usefulness as extra Therapy hits or another mana from Tower.
I really like this idea. I'll be testing it out as well.
@Jackbo: Cutting grove to add more removal is the way to polarize even more our MUs, making tempo and midrange even better and Combo even worse. Could be a clever thing to do, but i really don't like to play in this way =)
Moreover, 3 GSZ with only 4 Veteran as a target? No thanks, i would prefer 2 Library/Truths/Whispers or similar, absolutely.
Nether Void is really underwhelming, and if you are playing maindeck Curse too: try Dovescape or just drop it.
@Square: I've played with Dryad, and i've come to the conclusion of cutting her. But if you're playing >2 Evo Leap, in this case it makes sense
Possibly playable? Dodge bolt, AD and push, and trample over delvers making them sacrifice or generate additional fliers. GSZ-able too.
I like it a lot, even though it suffers from the same problem that affects a lot of the cool bombs that are available to us: it lacks protection and doesn't do anything until the next attack step. Sigarda says hi.
Possibly playable? Dodge bolt, AD and push, and trample over delvers making them sacrifice or generate additional fliers. GSZ-able too.
It's definitely worth playing/trying, especially because I suspect the card it's going to be at a bulk level price
E: Damn I posted again. Sorry
Could be playable. Swords kills it, I'm generally looking for haste when in red. But the upside is there.
At least minor synergy with Sneak Attack for whatever that's worth (I don't think it's very good)
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