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    Re: Tog Smash

    Frog
    Delver
    Grief
    2 Atraxa

    Scam package/entomb

    Tempo/control

    That’s the gist of the one I think will work… and possibly a tropical and rancor.
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    Re: Tog Smash

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    Frog
    Delver
    Grief
    2 Atraxa

    Scam package/entomb

    Tempo/control

    That’s the gist of the one I think will work… and possibly a tropical and rancor.
    Frog Smash

    3rd place MTGO Challenge 64 (76 players)

    //Creatures: 20
    4 Psychic Frog
    4 Grief
    4 Troll of Khazad-dûm
    3 Orcish Bowmasters
    2 Delver of Secrets
    2 Nethergoyf
    1 Brazen Borrower

    //Spells: 24
    4 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Reanimate
    4 Daze
    2 Fatal Push
    1 Dismember
    1 Sheoldred's Edict

    //Lands: 16
    4 Polluted Delta
    2 Flooded Strand
    3 Underground Sea
    1 Undercity Sewers
    1 Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Wasteland

    https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=56688&d=622833&f=LE


    1st place MTGO Challenge 32 (35 players)

    //Creatures: 14
    4 Psychic Frog
    4 Grief
    4 Troll of Khazad-dûm
    1 Archon of Cruelty
    1 Atraxa, Grand Unifier

    //Spells: 29
    4 Force of Will
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Entomb
    4 Reanimate
    4 Animate Dead
    4 Daze
    1 Force of Negation

    //Lands: 17
    4 Polluted Delta
    2 Flooded Strand
    4 Underground Sea
    1 Undercity Sewers
    1 Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Wasteland

    https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=56577&d=621936&f=LE

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    This likely ends up with them banning Grief since they won't want to ban Frog while MH3 is brand new. Eventually I could see both Frog and Grief getting banned. UBx will be taking over more and more of the meta as time progresses

    In the meantime there is gonna be Frog-Scam to be built as straight UB, UBG (Uro/Loam/Grist), or UB with Reanimator package (Atraxa/Archon/Animate Dead).

    UBG seems the strongest on paper since Loam is so juicy with Frog and Green has a lot of good sideboard material (e.g. Veil for Scam; Deed for Saga and Artifacts).

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    Re: Tog Smash

    How did it go?

    UB Frog is already a Tier 1 deck. You could just play that. Standstill is risky when you lose the die roll, since so many decks are getting on board fast now.

    If you want to brew with a Frog-Standstill hybrid, Nethergoyf and Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student are much better 1cmc threats to drop under a Standstill. Just be wary of opponent playing them too. Currency Converter is also an option, giving insane value with Psychic Frog discards or under Standstill.

    Dreadnought seems unnecessary. If you want to force it, play some Consign to Memory in the 75. It enables Dreadnought and also counters Chalice/Eldrazi/Mystic Forge.

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    Re: Tog Smash

    It went well in spite of my mana screw mulligans. This was the blue side I was curious about. Delver shell is already good and I felt the black splash for frog over murktide is a good space to be.

    Standstill felt like a necessary evil, two may even be the right number. Threat into standstill for the reactive deck is great and helped me maintain pressure.

    I agree nought isn’t necessary. I was going for the mana denial plan, but if it lines up it’s a fast clock.
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    Re: Tog Smash

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    This was the blue side I was curious about. Delver shell is already good and I felt the black splash for frog over murktide is a good space to be.
    Delver isn't good anymore. The "Delver shell" now plays 0 Delver. They've pivoted to Nethergoyf, Tamiyo, and Dragon's Rage Channeler. So if you want to build off the success of that tempo shell, Nethergoyf and Tamiyo are still the top 1 cmcs to consider. They're also amazing to stick T1 before a T2 Standstill.

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