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    [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    HISTORY
    I started playing magic several years ago (about 5 now).
    I was always the one guy that liked control based decks, I was a man with a mission, to control my friends aggro-like deck (mono green stompy). He would come to school every day, we would play at lunch and he would beat me (keep in mind that this was about 1 &1/2 years before I ever even realized there were tournaments). I eventually created a mono-black control deck (yes it started as a mono black deck). I eventually turned it into an anti creature based deck and beat everybody at my school (they just used creatures). I eventually discovered a local tourney, and opted to play at it. I lost miserably, but picked up some new ideas (why not splice blue?) My deck eventually turned into a BU wizard aggro control (yes I said it), this deck still beat my friends at school, but I was not satisfied with my performance at the tournament, I had a new goal. I continued to go to the tourney every week, with hopes to grow and improove as a competative magic player, that is where I saw it (the holy grail? sorry no), I saw a BU Atog deck with scepters for a controlling aspect (how ingenious!). I then changed my deck into a blue black scepter control (edicts counterspells + whatever).
    This strategy did not work out in the least.


    I was disappointed to say the least.


    I then dropped the deck for my LD deck (braids, which was BR at the time), which was down the same loosing streak, there had to be a way for that scepter to be good.
    The deck took one step closer to its' final goal, it became UR control, with burn & blue counter. I was eventually doing good with the deck with some help from my friends (Devastater & others). The idea for the white splash eventually came to me with the idea of using moments silence (soon to be orim's chant) & swords to plowshares. The finalized list eventually led me to win the tournament several times & consistantly placed whenever I played with it.


    The deck eventually morphed into scepter chant, this is my list:
    DECK:
    lands// 24
    4 tundra
    4 island
    3 plains
    4 flooded strand
    3 faerie conclave
    3 wasteland
    3 mishra's factory

    spells//37
    4 force of will
    4 counterspell
    2 wrath of god
    2 humility
    4 standstill
    3 swords to plowshares
    2 crucibles
    3 isochron scepter
    3 cunning wish
    2 decree of justice
    4 brainstorm
    2 fact or fiction
    2 orim's chant

    META:
    I live in San Diego, so my meta is ever changing, but I will try and give a genral overveiw of what it looks like at the moment.

    1-4 combo decks (salvenger's game, belcher, solidarity, & occasionally nausia)

    3-6 goblins
    2-3 threshold
    0-1 solidarity
    1-2 BHWC landstill
    1-2 red death/ mono B sui
    1-4 survival varients (welder/ advantage, & ATS)
    1-3 fish/ landstill (UW & UR)
    1-5 random aggro (affinity, elves, zoo)
    1-2 white weenie/ angel stompy
    1 brand
    0-2 stax
    0-1 ichorid
    0-1 spring tide
    0-3 burn
    1-3 braids/ BW control

    Card Explanations:


    The lands:


    Mishra's factory-
    an infinite chump blocker, as well as a little beater FTW.


    Faerie conclave- man land that can fly overhead, while still being able to produce blue mana (that is why there is 3 of these and only 2 mishra)

    The ruins- Makes it so one grip won't destroy the strategy at hand.

    ONLY! 3 fetches-
    you only ever want to see them early game, becaues you do not want to miss many land drops and once you get a crucible you only need one.


    wasteland-
    offsets opponents mana base, and can serve as a soft lock with the crucible.


    Academy ruins- recurrable scepter, one resolved disenchant/ grip will not put an end to my day.


    dual lands-
    duh!


    The Creature:


    Meddling mage:
    he helps kill random decks based around few cards, as well as being deadly to most combo decks, he is awesome main board!


    The counter magic:


    I only have 8, because once you have the scepter, they are usually just dead (except for against certain decks), I usually end up putting a counterspell on a stick in the coarse of most games anyways.


    The draw spells:


    Decree:
    serves as a draw spell and a surprise swarm at the end of my opponents' turn, the surprise aspect does the job for ya.


    Brainstorm: the single best draw spell allowed in legacy right now.


    Akumulate knowlege:
    not many people like this slot (they thionk it should be a fact, but I know better), I have tested the alternatives, and AK is by far the best (can serve as extreme card advantage). All four of them can ensure that you get to draw a grand total of 10 cards!


    lock:


    scepter:
    imprints any 2 cc or lower instant, and allows for mad cheats early/late game.


    Orim's chant:
    the main lock with the scepter


    the wish:
    allows me to seek out either of the other two lock peices, as well as letting me side board 1st game (research).


    Side board:

    Orim's chant:
    wishable lockpeice


    Enlightened tutor:
    lets me seek out side board cards as well as important artifacts.


    Dismantling blow/ swords to plowshares: situational spot removal to get rid of unexpected things that could hark my starategy.


    research/developement: allows me to grab my side board cards and use them game one, or letting me draw massive amounts of cards/ produces creatures maybe.


    Humility: crushes all creature on board & serves as mad cheats in conjunction with DoJ.


    Archane Lab: destroys combo, and allows me to have another locking strategy (this + scepter with counterspell).


    pithing needle: one of the best utility artifacts of the game, being able to throw a rench in the gears of most decks.





    I think that this deck may become a new threat (in the control form of things) in Legacy, for as we all know that is already true for extended.


    Feel free to ask your own questions, I am always willing to answer.
    Last edited by thefreakaccident; 04-14-2007 at 03:24 AM.

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    Re: [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    I can't say that I'm overly fond of humility in the board.

    Since you are playing a comboish lock, you may want to try out impulse instead of ak. Each one digs up 4 cards to choose from. I also doubt that you will get all 4 ak's pre lock.

    Since you are playing ruins, tfk, intuition or careful study may be an option.

    Fire/Ice is cool on the stick, but Im not sure it's worth screwing up your mana base for it.

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    Re: [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    thanx for the input, the AK's aren't always perferable, but they can refill my hand after the first one (which impulse cannot do).
    I have been considering FoF, but whenever I seem to test it I just cannot seem to get everything that I would like to get (the obvious downside).

    Does anyone have any input as to how I should deal with some of the newer threats, namely the split second cards (wipe away, extripate, & grip).
    I cannot leave this all to mage, cuz he is far too fragile.

    any suggestions would be greatly appreciated !

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    Re: [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    Quote Originally Posted by thefreakaccident View Post

    Does anyone have any input as to how I should deal with some of the newer threats, namely the split second cards (wipe away, extripate, & grip).
    I cannot leave this all to mage, cuz he is far too fragile.

    any suggestions would be greatly appreciated !
    You could drop some spells for the counterbalance+divining top combo if you are afraid of split second.
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    Re: [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    what cards would you suggest dropping that I can afford to drop, This has been suggested over at salvation, but I could not find anything that I could drop in appropriate numbers...
    I could drop some draw and the mages themselves, but I will still need to test out these such changes.

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    Re: [Deck] Beaten with an ugly stick (Orim's chant)

    Well first do you really need a wishboard? And second red seems like a weak spot in your deck. Do you really need to splash red for fire/ice?

    Also AK isn't that powerful, so put in 2-3 tops in its place and cut either the fire/ice or the cunning wish for the counterbalance.
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