So Bardo's a Mod now?

[Bardo]

If he is chalk full, then he is probably very sick.

See The Book of John; Chaper 8, Verse 7. That is all.

[Ridiculous Hat]

See The Book of John; Chaper 8, Verse 7. That is all.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

Is it a chalky stone?

[Bardo]

Is it a chalky stone?

What do I look like, a geologist? Fuck if I know. ;)

[Ridiculous Hat]

What do I look like, a geologist? Fuck if I know. ;)

Let he who is without sin compact the first sediment.

[BeeblesofLife]

Bardo being a mod, I think, is ok. Bardo, you have never bothered me, you are ok.

[Pinder]

Where is it? DO NOT SAY RENTON, LYNNWOOD, OR SOME OTHER SHITHOLE "CITY."

Hey, I live in Lynnwood. And yeah, it's sort of shitty. I wonder if Bothell counts as a shithole 'city'? Technically though, it's in a town called Lake Forest Park, which is sort of on the outskirts of Seattle (it's maybe 15 mins North of downtown).

Though I wonder if that's still 'beneath' you?

[BeeblesofLife]

Come on Pinder, you know as well as I do that the area is a home to people like me. That should say enough about the seattle area.

[DeathwingZERO]

Hey, I live in Lynnwood. And yeah, it's sort of shitty. I wonder if Bothell counts as a shithole 'city'? Technically though, it's in a town called Lake Forest Park, which is sort of on the outskirts of Seattle (it's maybe 15 mins North of downtown).

Though I wonder if that's still 'beneath' you?

Nothing on the outskirts of a big city should be "beneath" Frogboy. He lived right in the area of town thats basically smack in the middle of everything nearby. Beaverton, Lake Oswego, Portland, and NE portion of Tigard, all within good distance. In other words, the "middle of nowhere in the middle of everywhere", as I've fondly referred to it. Even if I' sure it's technically "Portland" on the address. Borders around here are strange like that.

[frogboy]

1. Beaverton and Tigard are not everything; they are in fact nothing.

2. I live ten minutes from downtown, which is closer than like the entire east side.

3. Navigating Seattle's suburbs is a lot more of a pain in the ass than Portland's.

[DeathwingZERO]

1. Beaverton and Tigard are not everything; they are in fact nothing.

2. I live ten minutes from downtown, which is closer than like the entire east side.

3. Navigating Seattle's suburbs is a lot more of a pain in the ass than Portland's.

1. Beaverton is the largest city by populace in the Greater Portland area short of Vancouver, which doesn't count. It's hardly "nothing". In fact, the West Side of Portland is pretty much the only half to care about, as far as well, everything, is concerned.

2. EVERYTHING on the outskirts of Portland is "within 10 minutes". Hell, even Vancouver just crosses a bridge. And name something on the East side other than Gresham. Pretty much anything East of Portland is a waste of space.

3. You may have me there, the only times I go to Seattle I don't bother with the suburbs, because Seattle is > suburbs. Does Portland even have suburbs? I'm used to the only houses in that city being on hillsides anyways.

[frogboy]

There's nothing actually in Beaverton, though.

[Zilla]

Does Portland even have suburbs?

Yes. They're called Beaverton. You accidentally called it a city earlier, which is wrong.

[Bardo]

1. Beaverton is the largest city by populace in the Greater Portland area short of Vancouver, which doesn't count.

First off, Beaverton is a crap hole. Not much to debate about that. Sure, it's better than Newark, NJ, but what isn't?

Population from US Census Bureau:

Portland: 562,690
Gresham: 97,745
Hillsboro: 84,445
Beaverton: 84,270

Beaverton: Slightly bigger than "Podunk."

[DeathwingZERO]

I kinda thought Gresham was bigger, but I don't think it counts, too many hicks and druggies yet to be called legally dead. And if the census ever caught up on how many illegals were in Hillsboro, I'm pretty sure it'd be a higher population than Portland itself.

As far as things to do, Beaverton is pretty lame. But as far as a place to live, this is probably the best city short of Lake Oswego or (some areas of) Portland itself. And if you don't have 5 digits in your bank account at all times, I'm pretty sure the LO people will run you out of the city limits with pitchforks.

I still find it odd to see so much bashing of the area though. Since when did Portland itself have much more to do than any of it's surrounding areas, including the suburbs? For all I have seen, the bar and concert scenes are pretty much it, after that your just getting into strange things like Saturday Market, etc.

[Bardo]

I still find it odd to see so much bashing of the area though. Since when did Portland itself have much more to do than any of it's surrounding areas, including the suburbs? For all I have seen, the bar and concert scenes are pretty much it, after that your just getting into strange things like Saturday Market, etc.

Suburb bashing is a proud and noble tradition in the United States--usually borne from resentment of the bourgeoise and petit-bourgeois by the inner-city proletariat, to the self-loathing/boredom of middle/upper-middle/upper class white kids in the 'burbs with too much time on their hands and nothing to do but drink, fuck, and get fucked up to pass the time. (See also, Rush's "Subdivisions" off Signals.)

This is a resentment that has its roots in the post-WW2 boom of the middle class, subsidization of said class via Roosevelt-era programs; most especially the G.I. Bill (Federally-funded mortgage underwriting, college tuition loans/grants, etc.), counter-pointing with the racist "red-lining" policies of the post-War Federal Housing Authority, which had the effect of ghetto-izing American inner-cities and ensuring the class/race divide for decades to come. (Most personal assets are tied to real property ownership [e.g. land, houses] and where there's an high renting population in the cities relative to the owning/mortgage-population in the suburbs).

All of these dimensions result in inordinate bashing of suburban US communities--some of which is justified, some of which is borne of anger and angst.

In short, "Beaverton blows." Cope.

[DeathwingZERO]

Suburb bashing is a proud and noble tradition in the United States--usually borne from resentment of the bourgeoise and petit-bourgeois by the inner-city proletariat, to the self-loathing/boredom of middle/upper-middle/upper class white kids in the 'burbs with too much time on their hands and nothing to do but drink, fuck, and get fucked up to pass the time. (See also, Rush's "Subdivisions" off Signals.)

This is a resentment that has its roots in the post-WW2 boom of the middle class, subsidization of said class via Roosevelt-era programs; most especially the G.I. Bill (Federally-funded mortgage underwriting, college tuition loans/grants, etc.), counter-pointing with the racist "red-lining" policies of the post-War Federal Housing Authority, which had the effect of ghetto-izing American inner-cities and ensuring the class/race divide for decades to come. (Most personal assets are tied to real property ownership [e.g. land, houses] and where there's an high renting population in the cities relative to the owning/mortgage-population in the suburbs).

All of these dimensions result in inordinate bashing of suburban US communities--some of which is justified, some of which is borne of anger and angst.

In short, "Beaverton blows." Cope.

You weren't sober in the least bit when you wrote this, were you?

[frogboy]

Suburb bashing is a proud and noble tradition in the United States--usually borne from resentment of the bourgeoise and petit-bourgeois by the inner-city proletariat, to the self-loathing/boredom of middle/upper-middle/upper class white kids in the 'burbs with too much time on their hands and nothing to do but drink, fuck, and get fucked up to pass the time. (See also, Rush's "Subdivisions" off Signals.)

This is a resentment that has its roots in the post-WW2 boom of the middle class, subsidization of said class via Roosevelt-era programs; most especially the G.I. Bill (Federally-funded mortgage underwriting, college tuition loans/grants, etc.), counter-pointing with the racist "red-lining" policies of the post-War Federal Housing Authority, which had the effect of ghetto-izing American inner-cities and ensuring the class/race divide for decades to come. (Most personal assets are tied to real property ownership [e.g. land, houses] and where there's an high renting population in the cities relative to the owning/mortgage-population in the suburbs).

All of these dimensions result in inordinate bashing of suburban US communities--some of which is justified, some of which is borne of anger and angst.

In short, "Beaverton blows." Cope.

Wow, I never QFT but this is just so fucking awesome.

[Anusien]

Happy Birthday Dan!

[Peter_Rotten]

WTF is this thread about?

[C.P.]

Happy Birthday Dan!

OMG Birthday thread. Must...be...locked...

Happy Birthday by the way.