[Deck] Dragon Stompy

[deviant]

Talk more about trinis, akroma/sulfur/maulers and equipments.
Some sideboarding discussion would be appreciated also, I think.
And please, pretty please, stop trying to gang-bang this deck. It's called Dragon Stompy yes, but this does not in any way mean that we want to play some ¤&"/# dragons! It's more like MOON stompy goddammit. 8 moon effects, SSG bathes in moonlight, jitte has a moon in the background, even arc-slogger seems to be in the "&%#/# moon. Moons everywhere..

Anyway.. There's a legacy-tournament coming again and I'm debating about those trinispheres. 0 / 2-3 md, if no md, 3 sb? Or just go without, what the heck. I seriously don't know what to do with them.
I would also like to drop the jittes, but they're too good I'm afraid :(
I like the idea of more threats, and I think a 2-2 split between akromas and sulfurs could perform, but those sulfurs are reeeally not good enough. They're more like combat tricks than threats. And 4 Akromas just feel.. weird.

People who have tested maulers: how has he done? Better than sulfur?
Has the inclusion of mediocre threaths like sulfurs been better than trinis?

[savemysoul]

Maulers do wonders for me, but I play 4 3sphere, so a 1turn sphere or CotV, than mauler. Way better than elemental in my opinion and testing against breakfast and U/G/r thresh.

mercenarybdu the deck your building is much worse than the original DS, so where`s the catch ?

[Rinello]

This is My list.


// Lands
10 [MM] Mountain (4)
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
4 [EX] City of Traitors

// Creatures
4 [DIS] Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 [FUT] Gathan Raiders
3 [MR] Arc-Slogger ======> Sometimes it is stuck in my hand
4 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
2 [PLC] Akroma, Angel of Fury ====> I think I'll add 1 more
2 [PLC] Sulfur Elemental =====> Maybe I'll drop them

// Spells
4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [8E] Blood Moon
3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte =====> correct number IMHO as I win a lot of games with Song, Magus or Simian or Morph + Jitte.

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [AL] Pyrokinesis =====> Thinkin about 3 MD, 'cause it helps Hellbent
SB: 4 [DS] Trinisphere =====> never MD as they can be redundant and bad topdeck. Also they are not red card and I win because of them only against Burn and Combo.
SB: 3 [10E] Pithing Needle
SB: 4 [CH] Tormod's Crypt



I am thinking of a list with +3 Pyrokinesis main +1 Akroma , with -2 Sulfur, -1 Arcslogger, -1 Blood Moon.
In SB: +1 Moon and +1 needle +1 Dunno

[Kuma]

I like Taurean Mauler much more than Sulfur Elemental. For all the talk of Sulfur Elemental being a pseudo-removal spell as a surprise blocker, I've rarely been able to make that happen to any great effect. Even with all the lock pieces, my opponents still cast spells for Mauler, and they only really need to cast one spell before you're swinging for as much damage as a Sulfur Elemental. If they're completely locked out of the game, it doesn't matter which creature we're playing. Mauler almost always draws out a counter or removal spell when I drop him turn one; people are scared to death of this guy when they should be scared of Raiders, Dragon, and Moon.

[Arsenal]

I like Taurean Mauler much more than Sulfur Elemental. For all the talk of Sulfur Elemental being a pseudo-removal spell as a surprise blocker, I've rarely been able to make that happen to any great effect. Even with all the lock pieces, my opponents still cast spells for Mauler, and they only really need to cast one spell before you're swinging for as much damage as a Sulfur Elemental. If they're completely locked out of the game, it doesn't matter which creature we're playing. Mauler almost always draws out a counter or removal spell when I drop him turn one; people are scared to death of this guy when they should be scared of Raiders, Dragon, and Moon.

And that's where he fails. He's a HORRIBLE topdeck, while Sulfur Elemental is equally efficient early or late in the game.

[TrialByFire]

The T2 players in my area have already driven up the price of Blood Moon to $7 a card after CA sales tax and I didn't find Jitte effective.

Raiders were alright but they're still on my table in the event I need to switch part of the plan back.

Blood Moon is not legal in Type 2. And regardless, its not expensive none-the-less. Jitte isn't effective in your deck because you re casting shitty 6 mana dragons. You'll never have the mana available to cast one and equip. Trust me, Jitte is a scary card to see on the other side of the table.

[Rinello]

Blood Moon is not legal in Type 2. And regardless, its not expensive none-the-less. Jitte isn't effective in your deck because you re casting shitty 6 mana dragons. You'll never have the mana available to cast one and equip. Trust me, Jitte is a scary card to see on the other side of the table.

Also with 6 mana I'd rather flip My Sherona *cough-cough* my Akroma.

[Arsenal]

An active Jitte is nuts. I've even casted my own Jitte just to bury my opponent's Jitte. Jitte wins game, period.

Also, Blood Moon can be had on trollandtoad.com for $.99 a piece. Ebay also has them for about $1 a piece. Seriously.

[Michael Keller]

I love how every other post in this thread is some random dude suggesting another god-awful card on the basis of because they THINK it will be good, but actually have no ACTUAL testing to back it up. And if they do, said testing suceeds in PROVING the card is god-awful.

Seriously, Tacosnape knows whats up. Stop doubting him.

I'm not some random dude, dude. And yeah, I have tested it - and I've had no problems with it. In fact, I've won games with it. It's a suggestion that facilitates debate. And it is far from god-awful - it was played in mono-red acceleration/stax variants long before this deck was ever conceived. If it is ruled out as a possibility that's fine - but don't assume one player knows the be all and end all of one solid deck in the format. That's foolish.

[Zork]

I have tested all of the following creatures in this deck:

3cc Red Guys

Arc Mage
Barbarian Bully
Bloodrock Cyclops
Fire Imp
Granite Gargoyle
Hell-Bent Raider
Hulking Ogre
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Skirk Shaman
Sulfur Elemental
Suq'Ata Lancer

3cc Art Guys

Phyrexian War Beast
Steel Golem

4cc Red guys

Balduvian Horde
Coal Stoker
Ekundu Cyclops
Flametongue Kavu
Lava Hounds
Pillaging Horde
Rakdos Pit Dragon
Volcano Hellion
Warmonger

4cc Art Guys

Grid Monitor
Juggernaut
Masticore
Synod Centurion

5cc Red Guys

Covetous Dragon
Gathan Raiders*
Tahngarth, Talruum Hero
Tarox Bladewing
Tephraderm

5cc Art guys

Razormane Masticore

Morphs

Akroma, Angel of Fury

Some of the 3cc guys were debatably good compared to Sulfur Elemental in some metagames, but the creature base I settled on was the one I placed with, and I wouldn't change a thing.

[savemysoul]

why didn`t you test mauler ?

[Media314r8]

I really like the idea of 2 Akromas in DS, as once your opponent has seen one/seen a gathan raiders, they will probably neevr get blocked if you have 1 card in hand or six mana open (or 4 + a [seething song] in hand), whichever they are. Swining with a jitte-equipped akroma is a fine too.

EDIT: Harcasting Akroma vs a control deck turn a million could be fun too, esp when they try to FoW her and you point out that she (the spell) can still be targeted by counterspells, but she isn't countered. Seemingly irrelavent line of text could be extremely relevant someday. (and good for infi lulz)

[Arsenal]

EDIT: Harcasting Akroma vs a control deck turn a million could be fun too, esp when they try to FoW her and you point out that she (the spell) can still be targeted by counterspells, but she isn't countered. Seemingly irrelavent line of text could be extremely relevant someday. (and good for infi lulz)

You never know. Some random player playing some random UW control deck could Absorb your Akroma. He still gains the 3 life. Booya!

[savemysoul]

and some random DS player would say something random like : akroma CAN`T be countered and he wouldn`t gain 3 life Booya !

[Arsenal]

Lol, I remember getting into arguments back in 2001 (MM/Invasion Type 2) over Absorb v. Urza's Rage. Although the net result is "nothing changes", it still was interesting to hear people scream at each other about Absorb v. Urza's Rage.

Back on topic, I've been playing Sulfur Elemental and I love him; virtually guaranteed to resolve, 2R cc, instant speed, and the ability to mow down white creatures (Jotun Grunt anyone?) is awesome.

[Rinello]

If he Absorbs I'd punch him in the face.

If he CAN Absorb, He avoided a full 4/4 Moon/Magus strategy.

Akroma is every day better: She makes your opponent think about what lies under my ORANGE sleeves, she can beat THE GAME if Jitte is online,
she can imprint, I'll never stress this enough, and she pitches to Pyro.

Sweet Akroma, I want you in a 4x foil set!

[Jaiminho]

Jitte alone can beat Silver Knight if it's ready. -1/-1 effect isn't red.

Unless its readiness is at 1 counter. Then, I'ma shut up.

[Zork]

why didn`t you test mauler ?

It wasn't out when I did my gauntlet. I have yet to test him, but someday I'll get to it. Honestly, it will be hard to replace Sulfur Elemental.

[Arsenal]

Yeah, I love Sulfur Elemental too. Akroma is the only creature I would think of replacing him with, and even then, probably not all 4.

Sulfur Elemental should read:
I laugh at Grunts. I kill/disable White Weenie hordes. I can play neat combat tricks. I'm equally effective mid/late game as I am on turn 1. I'm virtually guaranteed to resolve.

[savemysoul]

And why would mauler be a bad topdeck ? He reads : your opponent doesn`t play spells or this gets fat.