The Most Influential Legacy Deck Builder Contest

[Tacosnape]

The Game (And GK Salvagers) was awesome, though. So much fun. I remember building that back when it had Darksteel Colossus before the whole Salvagers thing was mentally put together.

[Michael Keller]

I don't deserve to be on the list. You're right. No arguments, no bitchin'.

[Nightmare]

I don't deserve to be on the list. You're right. No arguments, no bitchin'.

I still love you, Mike.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

I want to be clear on a few things before I vote;

Did the Hatfields invent Thresh, or just make it better?

Is Bryant C.'s storm deck the most popular "fast" storm deck?

How influential was Red Death during its reign?

Hypothetically, if other wins, who gets the title?

[B.C.]

@ B.C.
Aren't Spanish Inquistion, Grim Iggy, and Fetchland Tendrils all just different evolutions of the same deck?

I don't know. This gets into the philosophical question of "how many cards must two decks have different before they become different decks?"

[Tacosnape]

Did the Hatfields invent Thresh, or just make it better?

Did incredibly hot chicks invent sex, or just make it better? The answer is that nobody really cares and they should get a lot of credit anyway.

Is Bryant C.'s storm deck the most popular "fast" storm deck?

It was. It might still be. Ditto on whether or not it's the best. It's hard to tell how much of it is the deck and how much is Bryant's insane playskill with it, as people tend to be better with their own decks than anyone else.

How influential was Red Death during its reign?

Moderately. It wasn't format-breaking, but people did prepare for it. It was just a short reign. However, In Anwar's defense, he can't control the printing of certain green creatures.

Hypothetically, if other wins, who gets the title?

Hulk Hogan. He always wound up with the title when weird shit happened.

[Nihil Credo]

Did the Hatfields invent Thresh, or just make it better?

Did incredibly hot chicks invent sex, or just make it better? The answer is that nobody really cares and they should get a lot of credit anyway.

Note: this answer may be less metaphorical than it appears.

[Hightower]

But who created the "Blood Moon" Dragon Stompy, which sees play today? Or is it impossible to answer that. I would like to know (since I really like the deck)

[Tacosnape]

But who created the "Blood Moon" Dragon Stompy, which sees play today? Or is it impossible to answer that. I would like to know (since I really like the deck)

I think theoretically we both did. Phantom and I (I think Phantom did too, I could be wrong) had Moon versions working/testing at the same time Parcher T8'd with his. And Parcher's correct in that we didn't have our lists posted anywhere. I'd argue the Blood Moon thing was pretty much a natural evolution based on the change of the metagame. Parcher was the first to T8 with it in a major tournament, and deserves a lot more credit than he gets. I was the first to go as high as 8 maindecked, as far as I know. I could be wrong though.

[emidln]

SI is an archetype of fast combo that typically wins through Tendrils of Agony, but can honestly pick its win conditions. It has played Tendrils, Belcher, ETW, and Brain Freeze successfully in the past. It is defined by its 0cc creatures, use of Culling the Weak, and use of a large number of draw4s (6 or more). No Iggy variant to this day includes anything in this category. There's a guy from (I believe Wisconsin although his name escapes me) that routinely plays 4 draw4s in his Iggy list, but no others are even close. SI typically plays very little disruption relying on pure aggression to combo out, sometimes even before the opponent has had a turn. It is the current 'fastest combo deck' in legacy, and likely will be until parts of it are banned hovering around a 60% turn 1 goldfish.

Grim Iggy was my original name for what evolved into Fetchland Tendrils. It was the evolution of close to a month's worth of work with Merchant Scroll in an Iggy Pop-like shell. Grim Iggy was focused on being a very resilient deck to hate, helped out by its dual maindeck bounce spells (Wipe Away and Echoing Truth), its 8 specific tutor effects (4 Mystical, 4 Grim Tutor), multiple win conditions, and maindeck Orim's Chants with the possibility of having up to 4 Chants and 3 Abeyance postboard. The orignal list included 1 Intuition, 3 Ill-Gotten Gains, and 3 Tendrils of Agony (extra IGG and Tendrisl from Fetchland Tendrils to support Intuition) and was extremely similar in playstyle to Veggie Tendrils. You might recognize this plan since it became popular as Bryant copied it into TES and I kept it in Fetchland Tendrils.

Grim Iggy was rechristened Fetchland Tendrils for a couple reasons, but the biggest was that Grim Tutor wasn't necessarily played anymore (it was relegated to a metagame slot). The deck dropped some lands and streamed itself for consistency. This was largely brought on by the printings of Street Wraith and Ponder. The new deck has a Threshold-like manabase, a Threshold-like cantrip engine, and kills with Tendrils of Agony. It has several metagame slots that can support various splash color combinations and sideboarding strategies.

Sun Tower is a family of Stax decks that revolve around the idea that everything short of mana sources should produce Virtual Card Advantage. They are marked by use of Ensnaring Bridge and Sylvan Library. The decks are typically in some color combination of red, green, or blue, although I've worked on hundreds of lists in with each combination represented at some point.

[Peter_Rotten]

Christ almighty! What's with all the player hate?

Tacosnape created DragonStompy. We all know it to be true. End of story.

Cavius is probably one of the most creative deck builders on this site and others. I'm not suprised that he has a ton of votes since ppl tend to flock to his threads. (To be fair, a few of the Mods didn't want him included in the list).

Cook probably has the best Tendrils deck and was the first builder to include two Storm win-cons.

I only included ppl that the Mods felt belonged on the list (other than the obvious name in contention).

Sheesh - play nice, ppl.

[Ewokslayer]

Stuff

Wow, a succinct clear answer to a question on an internet forum.

I am speechless.

[Peter_Rotten]

Plus if we can't play nicely, I'll just shut down the poll and declare the winner as who has the most votes.

And sorry for the oversight - "other" was a bad option. If Other wins, I'll contact Hogan's ppl.

[clight]

From my (albeit limited) experience, I've seen a lot of Stompy fear and a lot of Disk sideboarding to compensate. And how many times have I lost to Trainwreck? TES is another deck we all hate to play against. The others on here have a good showing. Granted, we can all think of others we would like on this list, but this is a nice representation.

And if this "Other" character wins, well, everyone knows Hogan keeps his best deck-building ideas in his fanny pack.

[Bovinious]

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ght=gamekeeper

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...=polar+express
<which is the origin of Cephalid Breakfast>

There's tournament reports too. I'm not trolling and don't question my accomplishments in the format - I've created more than that and top 8'ed with my own builds at almost every major tournament I've competed in in the last 5 years. Just because they aren't recent, doesn't mean they aren't worthy to mention. When someone takes time to put hard work into a project and win with it, they should deserve respect. It's like trying for nothing. I've done better than Gearheart and Price with my own builds at major events.

I'd like to see you top 4 at a major tourney with Polar Kraken, Blood Lust, or Gamekeeper. the fact I can do it should inspire people to have fun and try to make intelligent choices when building their own decks. But someone ignorant like you wouldn't or couldn't understand that because too many people on here don't think outside the box and too consumed with the
"best decks" when they should be concerned with the decks that are on the rise. People like Cavius deserve credit because albeit his ideas, he makes them work. That's how I roll.

Sorry, I really thought you were joking because Ive never heard of you or seen you make/place with anything in recent memory (talking years here). I guess inventing The Game is something, but Breakfast came from Extended not The Polar Express...If the list were expanded maybe youd be on it since the Game used to be a real deck but thelist has some glaring omissions of more current and successful Legacy innovators so I really dont know what to say.

[Peter_Rotten]

Deleted stupid posts.

Stay on track please.

[TeenieBopper]

Jesus fuck Christ.

There's a lot of stupid motherfuckin' retards on this site.

Seriously.

Knock it the fuck off.

[Cavius The Great]

If Cavius and his joke deck can be on there, you should put me and Pitch World on there too, srsly

Pitch World doesn't win games and have a good Thresh matchup.

As for who I voted for, you know I had to do it Presidential style.

EDIT: Peter Rotten, plz take my name out of italics, I feel that you're mocking me.

[Pinder]

EDIT: Peter Rotten, plz take my name out of italics, I feel that you're mocking me.

Your name is in italics because that's who you voted for. If you voted for someone else, their name would be in italics.

So that's just what you get for being selfish .

[Tacosnape]

Pitch World doesn't win games and have a good Thresh matchup.

As for who I voted for, you know I had to do it Presidential style.

EDIT: Peter Rotten, plz take my name out of italics, I feel that you're mocking me.

Your name is in italics because that's who you voted for, dude.