That is an awesome creture to make a large dent on any control player that can't deal with the big guy with Trample and a chance of knocking down lands in it's wake.
I'll put that on my needs list in addition to making some adjustments to my existing plans.
You're joking, right?
5 colored mana for a 6/6 is bad in Legacy, period. It's especially bad on a creature that has absolutely no use until he actually hits an opponent, and it's especially bad in a deck where he's only getting cast off Seething Song or, rarely, off lands with a Moon effect in play.
Arsenal's right. Slogger can kill an opponent a turn faster than this guy, Slogger takes down opposing threats, and Slogger is easier to cast. This guy doesn't make the cut.
Originally Posted by majikal
I'm off to a tournament tomorow with +/- 50 people expected and the following list:
Main Deck:
4x City of Traitors
4x Ancient Tomb
10x Snow-Covered Mountain
4x Chrome Mox
4x Seething Song
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Arc-Slogger
4x Rakdos Pit Dragon
4x Gathan raiders
4x Magus of the Moon
3x Sulfur Elemental
1x Akroma, Angel of Furry (Could be replaced by a 4th sulfur or I could cut a slogger for the 4th sulfur...)
3x Blood Moon
3x Umezawa's Jitte
4x Chalice of the Void
Sideboard:
1x Blood Moon (Trying to get 4 in the main but I'm not sure what to cut, propably the akroma or a sulfur...)
3x Tormod's crypt (If I mannage to get the extra moon in the main I'll up this one to 4)
4x Pyrokinesis
3x Triinisphere
4x Pithing Neelde
Somme advice is welcome because I dont realy know what the metagame will be...
About the list:
The thing I'm most concerned with is snow-covered mountains. You really should play something better looking.
No, really, the list is just fine. I would ditch the bitch and move the BM md. Then play the fourth crypt.
That would be only one card off of my preferred list, and exactly the list I'd take to a "meta-blind" tournament.
Have fun and good luck.
LOLBut it's just because they all have the same art, and to play Jedi mind trick's so my opponent may expect some cards I don't play
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OK so I'll ditch the bitch, but what's that 1 card that I'm off than?
Thank's, and If I find the time I'll post a report.
Last edited by overseer1234; 04-12-2008 at 07:55 PM.
I played only 2 jittes main (4 sulfurs), and one in the sb. Only 3 pyros to make room for the jitte.
This, however, is not optimal I think. It's just the way I prefer to play - I hate to see multiple jittes and no threats and in my control-heavy meta those jittes really do not get to shine.
Also, I think that 3 jittes is the optimal number if meta-knowledge does not tell you otherwise.
I just got bacvk vrom the tournament and ended 18th out of 57 players going 4-2
1st round lost against a random mono green deck with ice storm thermokarst and other 3 mana landkill cards (yep, we die to random yank, and because this guy loses every other match my resistance sucks bigtime)
2nd round won against a rock like deck, however not deadguy rock, just some BG midrange control I guess... Ohw and he did play terravore and loam...
3rd round won against ichorid (a win that i forces more on the back of trinisphere than on tormod's crypt...)
4th round lost against agro loam (goddamn lucker, has answers to everything I throw at him, including 2 chalice for 2...)
5th round win against red ******** (chalice and trini shine :D)
6th round i win against TES (he steals game 1 ass I find myself screwed after a chalice for 1, 2nd en 3rd game go like trini+moon/chalice for 0/1...)
Rosheen the Erratic Meanderer (stupid french translation) 3R
Legendary Creature - Giant Shaman R
Tap: Add 4 to your mana pool. Use this mana only to pay for costs containing X.
Each night, Rosheen stammered something about a world bathing in the sun, which everyone thought as a fool's divagations.
Aleksi Briclot 4/4
I think he could fit well into this deck. A 4/4 for 3R without a drawback in red seems solid.
Plus, his ability can be used to pay for both Demonfire, and Chalice of the Void. That's great tempo.
The deck's current four drop, Rakdos Pit Dragon is better then "solid." Demonfire isn't popularly run due to it's speed and if you need Chalice at two, it's probably a better idea to drop it before this. Seems worse then Thran Dynamo.
So, Taco, I was thinking of picking this deck up and I was reading through the forums and came across defense grid. I didn't notice a conclusion on it. The last thing I noticed you talking about to improve the landstill and MUC matchups was leyline of the life force(which seems illogical to me as it could potentially be a topdeck while you are attempting to gain hellbent.) Did defense grid help pave the way against these two control decks at all?
Rest in peace, Grandpa Morphling.
Nemeses Slain:4
I know it's not any time soon, but I've got a Legacy event coming up in a couple of months (June), and I was planning on running Dragon Stompy. The metagame is pretty heavily Goblins as far as I know, with the rest unknown (except a random Death and Taxes), so I was wondering how this build looks.
10x Mountain
4x Ancient Tomb
4x City of Traitors
4x Chrome Mox
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Magus of the Moon
4x Gathan Raiders
4x Rakdos Pit Dragon
3x Arc Slogger
2x Akroma, Angel of the Red One
2x Sulfur Elemental
4x Seething Song
3x Blood Moon
3x Umezawa's Jitte
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
4x Chalice of the Void
----SB----
4x Pithing Needle
4x Tormod's Crypt
4x Pyrokinesis
3x Trinisphere
Fairly standard as far as I know; I was considering main-deck FTK, due to predicted amount of aggro, but I'm not sure.
Run some Pyroclasm in the SB to fight those guys off, drop the blood moons and put in more big guys. They won't be able to handle the big creatures anyway unless they splash for either white or black.
Here is my report of the second time I played Dragon Stompy in a tournament.
Placed finallist (we decided to pact the final).
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...787#post227787
Here is the list:
Mana acceleration:
4x Seething Song
4x Chrome Mox
4x Simian Spirit Guide
Lock:
4x Chalice of the Void
2x Blood Moon
4x Magus of the Moon
Creatures:
4x Rakdos Pit Dragon
4x Arc-Slogger
4x Gathan Raiders
3x Sulfur Elemental
1x Akroma Angel of Fury
Equipment:
2x Umezawa Jitte
2x Sword of Fire and Ice
Land:
10x Mountain
4x City of Traitors
4x Ancient Tomb
SB:
4x Pyrokinesis
3x Pithing Needle
3x Trinisphere
3x Tormods Crypt
1x Blood Moon
1x Sulfur Elemental
I finally decided to play without the Trinispheres, and I didn't miss them much.
I played an Akroma because in my metagame there is a hateful Rifter (I played against that deck the last tournament and I missed a huge creature to face Eternal Dragon and/or protection from white).
I finally decided not to try Demnofire, but I am seriously considering testing Shivan Wumpus.
The bad thing it has is its 4 mana cost (1 more than Sulfur Elemental). The good thing is he doesn't need RR to be played.
BUT here comes the discussion: Sulfur Elemental showed itself a rather good card, specially for the Flash ability, and RPD may run quite easily out of Hellbent, so how about trying to replace RPD for Shivan Wumpus?
Maybe I will try this in a further tournament.
That would in my opinion be the stupidest thing to do. Shivan Wumpus is only a RPD with Hellbent. The sweet thing about RPD is that it can be flying or on the ground, and it can be pumped.
Consider a RPD without hellbent. It's a Shivan Wumpus with an upkeep cost of RRR.
Shivan Wumpus is a RPD with Hellbent and nothing else, except for the six toughness, and it has a major drawback that can cost you the game. I don't even like to think about all the games you can lose because of a land sacrifice.
So RPD >>> Shivan Wumpus.
Sulfur Elemental is a pretty good creature, but I'd rather run Taurean Mauler. That really gives you a buttkicker against a lot of archetypes.
Other than Decree of Justice tokens, which very, very annoying things does Sulfur Elemental really hose? I haven't ever tested it extensively, but I do have an idea of its strengths and weaknesses.
Also, making Death and Taxes even more deadly does not sound like a good idea. A 3/1 Isamaru is not fun :/
"You're English is terrible and inconsistent."
-DownSyndromeKarl
Umm..
You know the deck called Cephalid Breakfast?
They, for one, really don't like to see sulfur elementals.
And about rpd. He swings for 14-18 so easily it's not even funny. He is the best topdeck when the initial assault has been dealt with. (barring low life-totals when almost anything can get there, then slogger for direct dmg and uncounterable sulfurs are better)
And I don't think giving your opponent timewalks for their useless nonbasic mountains is a good trade.
Btw NEVER play snow covered lands if it isnīt neccesary! I once lost a game because of a LD spell which destroys a land and gives the Opp 3 Life if that land was snow-covered...
Sulpher Elemental is good against Breakfast, as mentioned, but it's more importantly good against decks with blue. The abiliby to say, "I have a 3/2 now" with out any question makes it good. It can also serve as a suprise blocker and psudo removal.
By the way, I took a modest ninth at a Hadley thing a week ago, if anyone's interested.
Oh yeah, forgot about Breakfast. I never see it in my meta, so it's irrelevant for me. And on MWS, it hasn't been sulfur elemental that killed the breakfast player the times I won. It was Arc-Slogger.
"You're English is terrible and inconsistent."
-DownSyndromeKarl
I think Flametoungue Kavu could be a very strong sideboard choice here.
Any takers?
Flametounge Kavu was used before Tarmogoyf was printed. What does he bring to the table now that's more valuable then current sideboard cards?
Pithing Needle is too valuable against difficult match ups.
Crypt is too good against graveyard decks, most importantly Ichorid.
Trinisphere can out right win against storm combo and buy enough time against Thresh.
Pyrokinesis is good against both aggro and creature based combo.
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