$8 each for foil ones, when I got my set. I honestly don't give a shit where the price ends up - I'm guaranteed money if I sell them.
They definitely see more play in Legacy than T2, unless you're counting the sheer number of people that are playing them, in which case Extended probably wins. Extended might win anyway... I think a larger percentage of decks in Extended play them than Legacy.Originally Posted by yawg07
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I paid 3 month's rent by selling my 26 Tarmogoyfs. I was pretty stoked about that.
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Does Legacy actually influence the price of any card, except the week before a GP?
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^ I think it's finally starting to make City of Traitors and Wasteland into elite rares, anyway. They were radically undervalued until the past year.
Bleiweiss says he sees goyf hitting $25 or so soon and he's in the position to work towards making it happen; only time will tell.
Wastelands have always had dips and rises, based on how often they were used in general. They've been close to where they are now, on several occasions.
City of Traitors also had a randomly high value for a while, mostly just because Exodus stuff wasn't commonly seen after a while, but I would tend to agree that it's been a more prominent player in Legacy than anything else, which is why it holds any value now at all.
I wouldn't call either elites, but I'd say the price they are fetching now is reasonable. Couple the age and the fact they actually have a format they are useful in, and it's acceptable.
In comparison, I see absolutely no reason why Standard is as expensive as it is. Bitterblossom, Mutavault, etc.....ridiculous. I can remember even up to Ravnica block (excluding the duals) when you would see MAYBE one chase rare per set that hit $15-20. Seeing MULTIPLE cards per block hitting $20-50 though? Insane. There's no real comparison now, it's much more affordable to get into Legacy than it is to get into higher tier Standard and still be able to play more than one deck. A set or two of fetches, FoW, and maybe a single deckset of duals, and you are pretty much able to build multiple decks.
After testing tarmagoyf on MWS I realized they were broken (first deck tested was of course threshold in place of the werebear).
It was about 1 year ago.
It was the period of italian nationals, and they told me the price was 10/13euro each in local sellers at that time. But we know that during big tournaments the price are high, so I think the ebay value was a little lower.
After the summer I realize that I absolutely *HAD* to buy a playset because it's easily played in almost every deck of every format LOOL.
I remember a Bardo's post in which he claimed he paid his set 5 bucks each, and told that it was only hype and they will stabilize.... You were right man! LOL.
So I went to ebay, buy now a playset of CHINESE goyf for 80 dollars, I paid using "big muscle euro" LOL. Now the value is 30 euro (normal) each in italy.
I think no one will sell their because it's a must have card, like force of will or fetches...
I also agree that T2 is really a crapload... mutavault, blossom, thoughtseize.... tons of dollars wasted.... They are saying it's recession in USA (and Europe) but is this valid for Magic players?? LOL
I don't understand why Ravnica duals are now 5 euro each for example... I think they will be staples for next extended year, and one deck used all of them (the aggro with tribal flames you know).
Lion's Eye Diamond.
...and Phyrexian Dreadnought.
Tarmogoyf is just a fumdamentally good card- it will never go down. He is played in every format and it will remain that way forever, because Wizards will never make the mistake again.
I can see Goyf going down to 35 after standard rotation maybe 30 but thats it.
IT'S A TRAP!!!
ha ha ha
What a hype it was...
Apocalyptic people all around Legacy forums whinging about the Goyf specter, imploring for it to be banned...
How lame
Goyf is rotating out of T2, that will put it on the downwards trend. Legacy & Extended guys who wanted them already have them. Why buy more of that boring critter?? Demand will stay put but offer goes on the lash Goyf at 25$ in 4 months time.
It's still reasonable, but it reminds me of pithing needle or jitte
Please go and have a look at their prices on ebay..
At least we won't hear from the guy that much again
I still believe Legacy players are up for the beauty of it too. Winning with Goyf beating on the table is like winning with a 2 mana Craw Wurm. I've done it 2 or 3 times with my first 4th edition sets before moving quickly to combo/control kind of stuff, a better music for the mind really!
Mutavault will collapse after its rotation since Mishra is around
Anyone who still doesn't have a set maybe?
Goyf is played everywhere, from Ext to Vintage. I think it'll drop around 18 €, but I don't think he'll be cheaper than this. It BEATS. 2 mana for a 4/5 is just sick. That's right, he's just a critter, but damn.
And Mutavault will be played in Faeries, which actually is becoming more and more powerful in Ext and Vintage.
I needed to correct this. I still don't have my own goyfs... I borrow them.
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Goyf is in every deck that has creatures and green mana and virtually every aggro deck that could splash green to run it does that. Goyf is in virtually every non-mono-colored control deck that uses creatures and most of them splash green to run him. Goyf is even in combo decks (Aluren, Aggro Loam) that are trying very hard to do something else disgusting but cannot turn it down because it's such a great topdeck, even if it may interfere with the other things they are trying to do.
There are very, very few decks that splash blue for Brainstorm alone. There are very, very few decks that splash white just for Swords to Plowshares. There are no decks that splash red or black for just a single spell. Goyf is kind of unique in the effect he has on our metagame at the moment.
I agree. There's a number of people in both communities that still don't have them. I know of a few friends myself that haven't picked them up yet, just because $160-200 on a deckset of not dual lands is ridiculous.
The $25 marker will probably be close to where I expect it to stay at. It'll probably dip down to $20 and maybe even the higher teens when the scare sets in that "everyone else is selling off, so I better too before they tank", but they'll recoup after that.
I think they'll definitely fluctuate with the Extended season considering near every viable deck in Extended will want a playset, look for prices at 30 before the season and during spike them up to 35-37.50
oooh.. don't tease me!
Brainstorm is a support card that isn't really essential to most decks' gameplan. It isn't a threat or an answer, nor does it generate card advantage. It's great because it provides a trade of one mana for card quality and cantrips. Brainstorm is only really great if you can cast it reliably, and splashing for brainstorm doesn't allow for that. However, a blue splash in most decks for Force of Will often includes brainstorm for that very reason -- it helps find business spells and is pitchable.
Even still, some builds of TombStone splash blue for brainstorm.
Not true at all. Rw Goblins, some builds of Survival, It's the Fear, to name a few, splash white for just StP.
5-Color thresh plays red just for pyroclasm, Dreadstill splashes black for Bob, and I'm certain that some decks splash black just for thoughseize.
In addition, when decks splash green for Goyf, Krosan Grip almost always enters the sideboard.
Tarmogoyf, like Force of Will, Swords to Plowshares, Lightning Bolt, etc. is played because it outclasses everything else that does what it does. It's not synergistic, it's just a Good Card. Does it warp the format? Of course. It that a bad thing? I don't know. But it's no more broken than Swords to Plowshares.
Goyf> Swords. Simply to quote the number 1 limited player in our state. THREATS BEAT ANSWERS.
Goyf is actualy more efficient then swords. 2 mana threats that die to 1 mana removal are fine, Since the removal cant win the game, threats can. Goyf is unique in that saying "NO" is ok, theres nothing wrong with it. There is something wrong with one thing. Goyf can END THE GAME ALL BY ITSELF. Goyf also needs less countermagic then any other 2 3 4 or 5 drop the whole of the game. Not that its broken, its just TOO efficient, I dont want it banned I just want a card thats something like "BB 2/1, WHen ~ CitP remove all graveyards from the game, shroud"
Tarmogoyf will (after the stablization) settle at 30, its really good.
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Manaless Ichorid- At least its cheeper than standard.
We admit for the sake of the exercise that following is true:
Landstill > Fromat
Non-Basic Hate > Landstill
Basics > Non-Basic Hate
We can therefore logically conlude that
Basics > Format
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