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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    This is insane, I can't believe no one has posted top 8 decklists yet. I am dying the see that Elves list and the Belcher list. I have been to deckcheck.net, sideboard.com, and googled for gencon info but there is nothing. Wasn't there like 160 people or some insane number like that attending this event? You would think there would be all kinds of coverage. Anyway, I must know the Elves list, from what I heard it sounded quite standard but none-the-less I still have to see the list.

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    From what I remember, the elves list had Nettle Sentinel, Imperious perfects, caller of the claw to screw board sweepers, fyndhorns, llanowars, wrens run vanquishers, sylvan messenger, priest of titania, gaea's cradle, wirewood herald, heritage druid, jitte. Chalice@1 was the best thing that happened for me that round. I'm sure the guy's list will be posted someplace soon. It was fun to watch, and he played it very well.
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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    I'm actually Really interested in seeing this guys list. I'm a sucker for Aggro decks that are tribal (See: Used to play goblins, dabbling in merfolk, had slivers built for a while) and wouldn't mind seeing elves work.
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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    Looking forward to seeing the list for Slivers and Elves, as well. I played heavily with tribes for a very long time. Glad to see slivers finally did well.
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    It definitly was not landstill against the belcher deck. It also was not for marked sleeves. It was a decklist error. He happens to be a good friend of mine and it was a bitterblossom/spellstutter thresh-shell type deck which recently placed well at a large japanese tournament. Check deckcheck.net for more info.
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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz88 View Post
    It definitly was not landstill against the belcher deck. It also was not for marked sleeves. It was a decklist error. He happens to be a good friend of mine and it was a bitterblossom/spellstutter thresh-shell type deck which recently placed well at a large japanese tournament. Check deckcheck.net for more info.
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    ahh i saw standstill and bitterblossom didn't know it was a faeries build and a judge misinformed me about the game loss. it is a very interesting deck i think i'm going to build it and test it out.

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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    Quote Originally Posted by Pulp_Fiction View Post
    This is insane, I can't believe no one has posted top 8 decklists yet. I am dying the see that Elves list and the Belcher list. I have been to deckcheck.net, sideboard.com, and googled for gencon info but there is nothing. Wasn't there like 160 people or some insane number like that attending this event? You would think there would be all kinds of coverage. Anyway, I must know the Elves list, from what I heard it sounded quite standard but none-the-less I still have to see the list.

    I can't stand people complaining all the time. It would be nice to see the decklists, but this tournament does not change the format at all.

    I'm not sure how the elves list excactly got there, but it had everything to do with matchups for the most part. There is no way that an elves deck is better than goblins in Legacy. The best aggro deck will be goblins for a long time unless wizards decides to ban a few cards.
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    I love Legacy Champs. It is as close as we are going to come to seeing a competitive environment that is Source-free in the U.S. with U.S. players.

    You might be surprised to find that this conversation right now (and the near future actions of those in it) will play a large part in whether or not the decks represented in the top 8 gain any notoriety.

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    It doesn't really matter. Just like everyone else is saying this tournament won't change the face of Legacy, one conversation will not dictate what decks can become legitimate contenders for D.T.B. status.

    What's done is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
    I think it's pretty damn funny (and possibly significant) that there were probably 40 Thresh decks at that tournament, and maybe 5 Countersliver decks, and yet Countersliver won it all, while not a single Thresh deck made Top 8.
    Shit happens.

    Did you ever stop and think that the percentage of players who have no skill or testing with Thresh and just decided to pick it up and play it because they heard it was the best deck was starkingly higher in contrast to the number of players who had a plan going in to this event with a deck they probably play with all the time?

    Thresh is too generic these days in larger tournaments. It's still one of (if not still arguably) the best deck in Legacy. But when an event of this magnitude comes around people come out of the woodwork and hear about the Source and their friends tell them what to play, you'll get results like these.

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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    There was incredible amount of randomness at this event. I personally believe Legacy is much broader than the DTB forum but it seemed like the vast majority of people playing in the event weren't Legacy players. I had to explain a number of basic Landstill functions all day long ie: why you cant Stifle Standstill was asked 3 times. I got to know the guy that won the event alittle the day before in the grinder and he was definetly a good player but everything just seemed to come down to pairings. He played Slivers again on Saturday and went 0-2 drop. I played Landstill again and went 4-0. Yes it sucked a ton to get 2 byes, travel 700+ miles and end the day at 5-3. I lost to my opponents outstanding luck round 3, a very competent Ichorid player round 6 and the Aggro Loam deck that made top 8 round 7. My build of Landstill is set up to face Islands and the 3 rounds I did seem them I blew my opponents out, I hoped not to see Graveyard based decks since I only ran 2 Crypts and 1 E Tutor in the board and it ended up costing me 2 rounds. Overall I can't complain since I went x-0 both Thuirsaday and Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post
    You seem to be overly fond of quoting bumper stickers.
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    Sure, except when I thought about it, it was a lot more concise and didn't involve the word "starkingly."
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    it's actually a pretty poor* deck to play in Legacy right now.
    That's the most lopsided opinion I've heard on this site in years. How could you make such a judgment when some of our finest players continue to pilot Threshold variants to frequent placings all the time? You have no idea what people are playing, where they're playing it, and what they're playing against. Making such an assumption attacks the credibility of the D.T.B. forum and that's just something that is ludicrous.

    I hate Threshold. In fact, I despise it. But that doesn't mean I don't respect it enough to say it's a *poor" or *unethical* choice to play right now. Again, it depends on where you play and what people are playing. They will prepare for you, just as you should prepare for them. But don't assume it's a poor selection, because I'm sure a lot of other people would tend to disagree with you.

    And once again, nice work Geoff.

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    Well All I have to say is wow. This tournament ranks as one of the scrubiest tourneys I've ever played in.

    A judge told me they wanted to DQ the slivers player for having all his forces and all of his swords to plowshares in significantly shorter sleeves then the rest of his deck but they couldnt prove intent, so he just got a game loss.

    The games i watched in top8 were played piss poor, so I had to go do something else. I would say that this pretty much sums up legacy, random decks and poor playskill.

    I unfortunetly went 2-1-2 and had to drop despite not losing a match until round 5. Oh well, thats what i get for pllaying control, but i still won a black lotus in a vintage event.
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    I hate Threshold. In fact, I despise it. But that doesn't mean I don't respect it enough to say it's a *poor" or *unethical* choice to play right now.
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    I would say that this pretty much sums up legacy, random decks and poor playskill.

    I unfortunetly went 2-1-2
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    Re: [GenCon] 2008 Legacy Championship - August 15

    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideKing View Post
    Well All I have to say is wow. This tournament ranks as one of the scrubiest tourneys I've ever played in.

    A judge told me they wanted to DQ the slivers player for having all his forces and all of his swords to plowshares in significantly shorter sleeves then the rest of his deck but they couldnt prove intent, so he just got a game loss.

    The games i watched in top8 were played piss poor, so I had to go do something else. I would say that this pretty much sums up legacy, random decks and poor playskill.

    I unfortunetly went 2-1-2 and had to drop despite not losing a match until round 5. Oh well, thats what i get for pllaying control, but i still won a black lotus in a vintage event.
    What? Why don't you come play in the 5 year anniversary event or another large Legacy event in the North East? Then try and say "random decks and poor play skill" are the norm in Legacy. As a person who plays a lot of legacy with some of the best players in the area I take a lot of offense to that statement. Think before you post please....
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