Mad Zur is working really hard to get exact matchup analysis and statistics for ever single deck at the Source tournament. Please help us by posting what you played, your name, What you played against (with round played), and deck list if possible.
As it stands this data will be the most comprehensive ever analyzed. It will be invaluable for the future of this format. So help us out
Thanks guys.
Edit: Updated with current statistics, Thank You Mad Zur and everyone who helped so far.
Complete matchup data, in tabular form, is now in an Excel spreadsheet in the attached zip file. (Can be found in post 20)
Originally Posted by Mad Zur
Last edited by Happy Gilmore; 10-21-2008 at 11:55 PM.
Team Unicorn is too hetero for me.While this is close it's still wrong. Every one knows it's an orgy of unicorns.******s?
TeaM NOVA for life.
Jeremy Blumenthal; UGw Thresh. Decklist here.
EDIT:
If you're too lazy to read the report, my matchups were:
2-0 vs MUC
2-1 vs R/b Gobs
2-1 vs Goyf Sligh (P_R)
0-2 vs Geddon Stax (Afro)
1-2 vs MUC (guy who Top 8'd)
0-2 vs Merfolk
2-0 vs B/W Bomberman/Tendrils
Last edited by KillemallCFH; 10-20-2008 at 03:12 PM.
Scott Blumenthal, I played Faerie Stompy. Decklist.
Edit - Matchups by round:
Kyle Dorgan playing Ad Nauseam Tendrils
Jason Farr playing U/b Faerie Stompy
Ashur Terwilleger playing MUC
Brandon Hiks playing Goyf Sligh
Justin Wynn playing Lands.dec
Michael Teachout playing Ugr Thrash
Jack Elgin playing The Mighty Quinn
Chester Eleganté, Herbal Polituce combo.
On a side note - does this mean that I don't have to do my own metagame breakdown?
The E.P.I.C. Syndicate: I mean, if they play a lullaby for babies they should at least play the Monster Mash when somebody dies.
Correct, and if you post what you faced against and which round we can figure out fairly easily who was playing what faster.
Team Unicorn is too hetero for me.While this is close it's still wrong. Every one knows it's an orgy of unicorns.******s?
TeaM NOVA for life.
1. 2-0 Survival
2. 2-0 DragonStompy
3. 1-2 UGW Thresh
4. 2-1 TeamAmerica
5. 2-0 Landstill
6. 1-2 AdN
7. 2-1 Merfolk
My Goyf Sligh list:
Critters:
4 Fanatic
3 Grims
3 Figures
3 Keldons
4 Goyfs
Burn:
4 Bolts
4 Chains
4 Rifts
3 Fireblast
3 PoPs
Fix it:
4 Magma Jets
2 Sylvan Library
1 Krosan Grip
Lands:
4 Foothills
2 Mires
7 Mountains
4 Taigas
1 Forest
SB:
2 Shattering Spree
2 Grip
1 Hearth Kami
4 Crypt
1 PoP
2 Shusher
3 Pyroclasm
Thomas MacDonald
Ugr Dreadstill:
Lands:21
4 Mishra's Factory
3 Wasteland
3 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
3 Tropical Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
Creatures:10
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Phyrexian Dreadnought
3 Trinket Mage
Noncreature Spells:29
4 Force of Will
4 Stifle
4 Brainstorm
4 Standstill
3 Daze
3 Counterbalance
2 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Krosan Grip
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Trickbind
Sideboard:15
4 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Firespout
1 Pithing Needle
1 Relic of Progenitus
Round 1:Aggro-loam
G1.) Mull to five on no land hands.
G2.) Mull to five on no land hands.
0-2, 0-1
Round 2:Affinity
G1.) CB/T but no creatures or factorys, a single master gets their.
G2.) Mull to 5 on no land hands, he opens with Ornithopter and 2 Cranial Platings killing me on his turn turn 3.
0-4, 0-2
Round 3:UGb Thresh
G1.)Mull to Five on no lands.
G2.)I establish CB/T but he had a Dark Confidant, I proceed to once again draw no creatures or Factory's and he kills me with Bob when He's at 2 life. Naturally he flipped the top card and it was a Tarmogoyf.
0-6, 0-3
Round 4:Affinity
G1.) CB/T Lock and 2 Tarmogoyfs.
G2.) I Firespout his board and Drop a Nought.
2-6, 1-3
Round 5:Imperial Painter
G1.) He Sneaks Combo Through on his last turn.
G2.) I CB/T Lock him and kill him with Dreadnought
G3.) I Keep a 2 Land, 5 Blast Hand and top deck Factory, It gets there and the only spells he resolved were A Sword of Light and Shadow and a Painter which I Red Blasted in response to him equipping.
4-7, 2-3
Round 6:Ichorid
G1.) I know what he's playing but don't really care anymore so I just keep a hand thats only business was turn 2 Tarmogoyf. He steamrolls me.
G2.) I resolve 3 Trinket Mages for 3 Crypts, he never has a chance.
G3.) My lack of sleep catches up with me when I drop an Island instead of my Volcanic island with REB in hand He goes to Breakthrough I go to REB and realize I played the wrong land... Doh! he dredges 3 Narco's and 2 Bridges, I never get back into it. He had nothing if the Breakthrough was countered and I would have had a Dreadnought next turn but he therapied away my stifles. Oh well play error for the loss.
5-9, 2-4
Round 7:AdN TES
G1.)He opens with City of Brass Ponder. I realize what he is playing and look at my 2 Stifles, Daze, and Fow and go this should be easy. I drop a Counterbalance on my second turn and he never has a chance.
G2.)I let him combo and force his AdN, he never gets back into the game and Nought Takes him down.
7-9, 3-4
And that's how I scrubbed out I honestly feel I should have been 5-2 maybe 6-1 if I was good at drawing lands, I mean really mull to 5 four times in the first 4 rounds, on 0 land hands in a 21 card deck after table shuffling every game, seems improbable. Aggro-Loam and Affinity are pretty easy, and I through away game 3 against Ichorid.
Team Hammafist
UG Thrash.
List confidental for the time being.
All these matchups were done after losing the die roll.
Dragon Stompy (Big dude with the tattoos famous for the LAM altercation)- 2-1
UGR Thrash with maindeck counterspell (Mr. T)- 2-1
Zoo Variant (unregistered canadian)- 2-1
The Mighty Quinn (IBA) 1-1-1
Team America (nitewolf9) 1-2
Agro Loam (James something. Calosso said something about a hammer?) 2-0
Survival (Dave Price)- 0-2 I played like shit for game 2. I was tired and dejected after losing game 1. I played a goose over a Stifle for some rediculous reason and let myself get mindfucked allowing him to resolve a crucial Tarmogoyf, stopping the bleeding.
Team Rehab- We Keep Coming Back For More
Team Blitzkrieg- Swagga.
Storm Boards
Wasn't me. I was too busy sobbing uncontrollably during work all the way over here in Washington. Because I was sad. Because I didn't make it. And I had to work.
*sniff*
Team Info-Ninjas: Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
My Videos: Chiron Beta Prime, Flickr, Re: Your Brains
I'm pretty sure it was James Buckingham.
Also, what's Herbal Poultice combo? It's not ringing a bell.
For the foreseeable future, expect to see less of me. I've lost my internet connection, and so I'll only be able to get on by siphoning free Wi-Fi from the surrounding areas. Which isn't always consistent.
Plus, the guy that I used to leech off of has now instituted password protection. This means that I effectively do not have internet at home. :(
Plus it was that time of the month.
Team Info-Ninja: Shhh... We don't exist.
Yeah that's it. I could not think of his last name to save my life. What's his source handle?
Team Rehab- We Keep Coming Back For More
Team Blitzkrieg- Swagga.
Storm Boards
Doesn't have one. Rarely plays Legacy. He goes to tournaments with James Peyton because he thinks we suck and he can crush us. Decent guy, if a tad arrogant (which is funny coming from me).
For the foreseeable future, expect to see less of me. I've lost my internet connection, and so I'll only be able to get on by siphoning free Wi-Fi from the surrounding areas. Which isn't always consistent.
Plus, the guy that I used to leech off of has now instituted password protection. This means that I effectively do not have internet at home. :(
Considering Chuck posted in the Source Tournament Live Thread Pairings and results in every round what data are you missing? I guess you just need to pair up every player to a deck? It would be awesome if whoever has the decklists gave them up to whoever is willing to go through it all. idk something something
Buckingham, James R - Agro Loam, 1-1
Rogers, Robert A - Black Thresh, 2-1
Snyder, Brad - Agro Loam, 2-1
Spengler, Nick - Elves 2-1
Elgin, Jack - Mono White Control 2-1
Humphres, Kyle - UGB Control 0-2
Eldredge, Will L - UG Tempo Thresh 2-0
Joe Barra
Mighty Quinn
UGB thresh 2-0
Dragon Stompy 2-1
Beserk Stompy 2-0
Affinity 2-0
Dreadstill 0-2
Epic Painter 1-2
Goblins, B splash 0-2
John Brattin, UWb Landstill
3 mishra's factory
3 wasteland
3 polluted delta
2 flooded strand
3 tundra
2 scrubland
2 underground sea
2 island
2 plains
1 swamp
3 engineered explosives
1 crucible of worlds
4 swords to plowshares
3 wrath of god
2 humility
2 decree of justice
2 eternal dragon
4 brainstorm
4 standstill
4 counterspell
2 cunning wish
2 fact or fiction
4 force of will
SB:
1 enlightened tutor
3 runed halo
1 pulse of the fields
1 return to dust
2 blue elemental blast
2 hydroblast
1 extirpate
4 vindicate
The plan was to wreck people with Humility when possible, and then when they board in Krosan Grips, switch Humility and Wish out for Vindicates. It worked a couple times. It's my own build, but it's pretty much a bastardization of Konsultant and DIF's lists.
2-0 against Joe Sobel with Kobold/Glimpse of Nature Storm Combo
1-2 against Jay Palmer with White Stax
0-2 against Cody Mannion with Standstill+Crucible+Cunning Wish Threshold? like Landstill with Humilities and Wraths switched out for Goyfs and Mongeese. He ran Volcanic Islands for...Starstorm out of the board, i think?
1-1-1 against Alex Bugosh with Enchantress
2-1 against Robert Rogers with Thresh
1-1 against Matt Abold with GBwr Survival
2-0 against Roddy Ruban with 5-Color Survival Slivers
You're Doing It Wrong. The matchup data is already posted, PM me if you need anything that's missing.
I'll give the archtype data to you too, since apparently I ended up with the decklists (since we were rushed to get out, everything was shoved into my box - including Kreiger's cookies, mmm).
Mad Zur is working really hard to get exact matchup analysis and statistics for ever single deck at the Source tournament. Please help us by posting what you played, your name, What you played against (with round played), and deck list if possible.
As it stands this data will be the most comprehensive ever analyzed. It will be invaluable for the future of this format. So help us out
Thanks guys.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
Thanks for the help, everyone. However, as Chuck and darkalucard pointed out, the results from each round have already been posted. The only thing I'm missing is who played what.
EDIT: See cdr's post below for the full list of decks.
Metagame breakdown by general archetype:
Metagame breakdown by variant/color combination:Code:Deck Name # in Field % of Field Average Place Games Matches ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thresh 14 11.023622 60.785713 104-96-3 40-38-4 Goblins 11 8.661418 48.545456 93-71-2 39-26-2 TES/ANT 9 7.0866146 63.88889 64-64-0 28-26-0 Affinity 7 5.511811 82.42857 36-54-0 13-25-0 Survival 7 5.511811 53.42857 53-47-3 21-16-5 Dreadstill 5 3.937008 28.2 55-32-1 25-10-1 Goyf Sligh 4 3.1496062 51.0 35-30-0 14-12-0 Mono-W Stax 4 3.1496062 66.5 28-26-2 11-9-2 Landstill 4 3.1496062 54.0 30-23-1 12-9-2 Dragon Stompy 4 3.1496062 84.75 21-35-0 7-14-0 Ichorid 3 2.3622048 40.0 27-22-1 11-8-1 Aggro Loam 3 2.3622048 62.0 24-25-1 8-10-1 It's The Fear 3 2.3622048 73.333336 21-23-0 8-8-0 EPIC Painter 3 2.3622048 32.0 32-23-0 14-8-0 Eva Green 3 2.3622048 58.333332 26-27-0 10-11-0 Merfolk 2 1.5748031 63.5 16-16-0 6-7-0 42 Land 2 1.5748031 100.0 8-14-1 2-6-1 Tombstone 2 1.5748031 80.0 14-18-0 5-7-0 Counter Sliver 2 1.5748031 100.5 11-17-0 3-8-0 Team America 2 1.5748031 32.0 22-15-0 9-5-0 Mighty Quinn 2 1.5748031 29.5 19-14-2 8-5-1 Elves 2 1.5748031 99.0 10-15-0 3-7-0 Kobold Glimpse 2 1.5748031 124.0 2-12-0 0-6-0 Stompy 2 1.5748031 29.0 20-17-0 9-5-0 Mono-U Control 2 1.5748031 29.5 20-15-1 9-5-1 Solitare 2 1.5748031 100.0 9-14-1 2-6-1 Faerie Stompy 2 1.5748031 61.0 14-13-1 6-4-1 Wildfire 1 0.78740156 63.0 7-9-0 3-4-0 Elephant Stompy 1 0.78740156 87.0 6-7-0 2-3-0 Zoo 1 0.78740156 81.0 5-9-0 2-4-0 Salvagers 1 0.78740156 68.0 8-8-0 3-4-0 Intruder Alarm 1 0.78740156 112.0 5-11-1 1-6-0 U/B Reanimator 1 0.78740156 119.0 1-4-0 0-2-0 Death & Taxes 1 0.78740156 106.0 3-7-0 1-3-0 Imperial Painter 1 0.78740156 67.0 8-9-0 2-4-0 UBg Control 1 0.78740156 17.0 10-6-0 5-2-0 Mono-W Soldiers 1 0.78740156 123.0 1-4-0 0-2-0 Ugr Stifle 1 0.78740156 98.0 2-5-0 1-2-0 Swan Thresh 1 0.78740156 25.0 10-7-1 4-2-1 Aluren 1 0.78740156 13.0 10-6-0 5-2-0 Mono-B Dredge/Unearth 1 0.78740156 105.0 3-6-0 1-3-0 Standstill 1 0.78740156 110.0 4-4-0 1-2-0 Sligh 1 0.78740156 107.0 3-9-0 1-4-0 G/B Aggro 1 0.78740156 116.0 4-12-0 1-6-0 U/B Control 1 0.78740156 122.0 0-6-0 0-3-0 Rockin Blue 1 0.78740156 19.0 10-7-0 5-2-0
Byes and intentional draws are not counted. Now includes the entire Swiss portion and the top 8.Code:Deck Name # in Field % of Field Average Place Games Matches ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TES/ANT 9 7.0866146 63.88889 64-64-0 28-26-0 Rgb Goblins 6 4.7244096 61.0 44-37-1 18-15-1 GBrw Survival 5 3.937008 61.0 34-31-2 13-11-4 Ugr Stifle Thresh 5 3.937008 45.4 46-37-1 18-14-1 Goyf Sligh 4 3.1496062 51.0 35-30-0 14-12-0 Mono-W Stax 4 3.1496062 66.5 28-26-2 11-9-2 Ugr Dreadstill 4 3.1496062 35.0 39-28-1 17-10-1 Dragon Stompy 4 3.1496062 84.75 21-35-0 7-14-0 Ichorid 3 2.3622048 40.0 27-22-1 11-8-1 Aggro Loam 3 2.3622048 62.0 24-25-1 8-10-1 Ugw Thresh 3 2.3622048 74.666664 17-20-0 7-9-0 It's The Fear 3 2.3622048 73.333336 21-23-0 8-8-0 Ubg EPIC Painter 3 2.3622048 32.0 32-23-0 14-8-0 ubw Affinity 3 2.3622048 81.0 18-23-0 6-11-0 Eva Green 3 2.3622048 58.333332 26-27-0 10-11-0 Rb Goblins 3 2.3622048 22.0 33-19-1 14-6-1 Merfolk 2 1.5748031 63.5 16-16-0 6-7-0 42 Land 2 1.5748031 100.0 8-14-1 2-6-1 Ugb Thresh 2 1.5748031 56.5 17-12-1 6-4-2 Tombstone 2 1.5748031 80.0 14-18-0 5-7-0 Team America 2 1.5748031 32.0 22-15-0 9-5-0 Mighty Quinn 2 1.5748031 29.5 19-14-2 8-5-1 Kobold Glimpse 2 1.5748031 124.0 2-12-0 0-6-0 Mono-U Control 2 1.5748031 29.5 20-15-1 9-5-1 Wildfire 1 0.78740156 63.0 7-9-0 3-4-0 Elephant Stompy 1 0.78740156 87.0 6-7-0 2-3-0 GRbw Zoo 1 0.78740156 81.0 5-9-0 2-4-0 Gw Stompy 1 0.78740156 36.0 9-9-0 4-3-0 Combo Elves 1 0.78740156 84.0 5-7-0 2-3-0 Slivers Survival 1 0.78740156 59.0 8-9-0 3-4-0 Ugbwr Thresh 1 0.78740156 83.0 5-6-0 2-3-0 Salvagers 1 0.78740156 68.0 8-8-0 3-4-0 Ugwr Landstill 1 0.78740156 12.0 11-6-0 5-2-0 Mono-R Goblins 1 0.78740156 62.0 7-5-0 3-2-0 U/B Reanimator 1 0.78740156 119.0 1-4-0 0-2-0 ubgw Affinity 1 0.78740156 77.0 5-7-0 2-3-0 Death & Taxes 1 0.78740156 106.0 3-7-0 1-3-0 bur Affinity 1 0.78740156 79.0 4-7-0 2-3-0 Imperial Painter 1 0.78740156 67.0 8-9-0 2-4-0 UBg Control 1 0.78740156 17.0 10-6-0 5-2-0 GBr Survival 1 0.78740156 10.0 11-7-1 5-1-1 UGb Aluren 1 0.78740156 13.0 10-6-0 5-2-0 Ugr Swan Thresh 1 0.78740156 25.0 10-7-1 4-2-1 UWb Landstill 1 0.78740156 52.0 6-6-0 3-3-0 UWgb Landstill 1 0.78740156 103.0 4-4-0 1-2-0 GWr Solitare 1 0.78740156 96.0 4-8-1 1-3-1 UBg Standstill 1 0.78740156 110.0 4-4-0 1-2-0 GUW Intruder Alarm 1 0.78740156 112.0 5-11-1 1-6-0 Mono-W Soldiers 1 0.78740156 123.0 1-4-0 0-2-0 Uwgb Counter Sliver 1 0.78740156 90.0 5-7-0 2-3-0 ubg Trinket Affinity 1 0.78740156 125.0 1-8-0 0-4-0 Ugr Stifle 1 0.78740156 98.0 2-5-0 1-2-0 Uwb Landstill 1 0.78740156 49.0 9-7-1 3-2-2 Ugr Moon Thresh 1 0.78740156 102.0 3-6-0 1-3-0 Mono-B Dredge/Unearth 1 0.78740156 105.0 3-6-0 1-3-0 ubr Affinity 1 0.78740156 53.0 8-9-0 3-4-0 Ug Thresh 1 0.78740156 26.0 10-8-1 4-2-1 Sligh 1 0.78740156 107.0 3-9-0 1-4-0 Ugw Rockin Blue 1 0.78740156 19.0 10-7-0 5-2-0 G/B Aggro 1 0.78740156 116.0 4-12-0 1-6-0 Ugrw Thresh 1 0.78740156 76.0 6-7-0 2-3-0 Rbw Goblins 1 0.78740156 40.0 9-10-0 4-3-0 Mono-G Stompy 1 0.78740156 22.0 11-8-0 5-2-0 Solitare 1 0.78740156 104.0 5-6-0 1-3-0 U/B Control 1 0.78740156 122.0 0-6-0 0-3-0 Faerie Stompy 1 0.78740156 9.0 11-6-1 5-1-1 Ur Dreadstill 1 0.78740156 1.0 16-4-0 8-0-0 Aggro Elves 1 0.78740156 114.0 5-8-0 1-4-0 Uwg Counter Sliver 1 0.78740156 111.0 6-10-0 1-5-0 Ub Faerie Stompy 1 0.78740156 113.0 3-7-0 1-3-0
Last edited by Mad Zur; 10-21-2008 at 07:30 PM.
EDIT: Complete matchup data, in tabular form, is now in an Excel spreadsheet in the attached zip file.
Last edited by Mad Zur; 10-21-2008 at 08:21 PM.
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