In the last section of today's column, BDM announced the new DCI Total rating:
Wizards is introducing a new ELO rating called DCI Total that is the total of all the matches a player has participated in: Standard, Extended, Block Constructed, Vintage, Legacy, Sealed Deck, Booster Draft, 3-Person teams, and 2-Person teams. Unlike Composite rating, this is not an averaged rating. It is one rating for all your matches other than ones where you play with more than two players in a single game of Magic (multi-player and 2HG).
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Players can expect to see their DCI Total rating within the next month. It will be interesting to see if any new players—Vintage and Legacy players, even—will suddenly find themselves with a seat at the Pro Tour table.
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I would be a lot more excited about this if I thought I had any shot at being one of those random people with a sudden pro tour seat.
Either way though, it's pretty nice to know that my playing Legacy can actually have some impact on a possible career in Magic, though.
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Originally Posted by Slay
Also this might bring more non-legacy players into Legacy so that they can have more chances to boost there rating up to get in the Top 100.
There's a very interesting idea where it might bring the extremely competitive players into Legacy because there's a general idea that we suck at Magic.
So, you have players who are pretty good, but just a little below the cut off to make it on the gravy train who live near an active Legacy spot (Syracuse is the one I'm thinking of here) show up to "beat the piss" out of the local players. Could be interesting. Might mean that spreading the word about Legacy tournaments to friends who don't play Legacy actively might mean even more arrivals.
Just something to keep in mind.
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I have to be sceptical about these changes at the same time it is a small time to celebrate a small victory.
How will we be able to gain a hold of the cards for those constructed formats if we do gain the invites?
I don't own many of the latest cards, nor do I have a network of people to borrow from for such events.
Then I have to question even more if there are even going to be any Legacy GPs in the 2009 season. I'd like to see that schedule to plan ahead. The bulk of the players that are featured on all of the mainstream media sources I could find don't even bring in a true Legacy Player to go over the format for those who haven't noticed.
They turn to Pat and Stephen (who are mainly Vintage Players) and have them talk about it.
Where's Nightmare to go kick those people in the teeth? Where's Bardo to set things straight about the European Community (people who aren't familiar with us don't even realize that Europe is already well established)? Where are our South American and APAC supporters (I have not heard from them at all)? And last of all, where are our other Legacy Broadcasters?
Am I the only broadcaster standing out there to bring Legacy more into light?
People don't cause trouble for silly reasons. I need that GP schedule so I could prepare funds to go to those Legacy based events to bring back the other long deserved video coverage the community so richly deserves.
Hope Wizards doesn't screw it again like they did with GP Flash. That event still leaves a bad impresssion on the minds of regulars about the format followed by the fact that there were three major Legacy events that followed in that event's wake with Flash no longer being in the format. All which got very poor coverage by the official staff.
Is this how Wizards is going to do business with us? Just by giving us a second pat on the back followed by a rain of mud afterwards? That is what they are doing folks! That is what they are doing!
These people up there in bulk don't Play Legacy. So when it comes time to better understanding us, most are massly underestimated on how established we are already. Why don't they pick up our rifles for once and actually engadge?
We need the rest of the community to engadge and tell Wizards that what they are doing is not enough.
In this article, we are just being patted on the back again. Where are these Legacy Events going to be located? How are we going to get more players to join in? when they aren't promoting it at the same level of FNMs and PTQs.
My nearest Legacy event is half a state away from where I live and the last one held up here was over a year ago.
We have tried the basic ways and the population of players isn't even past the PTQ mark.
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You remind me of the Pro Players prior to last Worlds where they had to play Legacy...
People with a DCI Total Rating of 2000+ who will get invited will have Networks. Its near impossible to reach such a high level without having a network of people to test with, to borrow from and to drive to events.
The Pros ended up with all the cards they needed for Legacy, too.
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Very very interesting.
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This is good news. Why would you, yet again, make it about you?
No one at Wizards really cares enough to seek you and your opinion out. I don't write anymore, and neither does Bardo, so what would the point be of asking either one of us for insights? As far as WotC cares, we (Being the Source) either don't exist, or are irrelevant. It's always been that way, and short of an admin making the Tour (unlikely), it always will be.
Wow. Just wow. There might actually be a Legacy scene in Amsterdam in the near future!
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably delicious.
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Maybe good for legacy players but probably a bad news for legacy in my oppinion, and thus a bad news for legacy fans.
Imagine, there are 2 islands, 1 with plenty of food (we call it the standart island) and the other one where people is starving (the vintage island). Then, some engineer decides to build a bridge (or a tunnel, no difference) between those two islands.
Which people will take benefit from this bridge?
- the vintage people (not the village people)
- the standart island food retailers (probably the cash provider for the bridge project)
What is sad about this exodus?
- only vintage fans remaining on the vintage island
- overpopulation on the standart island
Maverick, you confuse me. What's your point without metaphors? Because I don't understand them...Who are the food retailers? What is the food? Where is Legacy in this?
Do you mean what is sad or what is said?
It's Friday afternoon, and I'm at work and I can't think anymore...
For what I can see, what you're saying with your vague metaphors, is that because Legacy now matters for DCI total rating, people will leave the Legacy (Vintage) island? I really must be understanding your wrong, or you're out of your mind
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably delicious.
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Wow! I actually might have a decent total rating...
Constructed 1763 (rising - 2nd place extended finish)
Limited 1813
Eternal 1841
Team Classic - Pairs 1690 (yay 1.5 teams events)
Team Constructed - Pairs 1610
Survival will be good forever... kinda like a maraschino cherry.
It would be cool to get some of the avid standard-players to get into Legacy, most of the vintagepimps around here already take active interest in Legacy as well. Not alot to say, good news!
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I may be wrong but I understand that it will be easier to convince legacy players to play standart where there is a lot of money than the opposite.
Edit:
food is rewards
Hasbro is the retailer on the standart island (it has far more concurrency on the vintage island)
vintage island people that are in the exodus towards the standart island, are the people that used to play legacy and that are going to be attracted by the rewards available in standart
vintage island people that are not in the exodus are the legacy fans as we are
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Last edited by Maveric78f; 10-24-2008 at 09:40 AM. Reason: cy
You're talking weird stuff again. My French obviously has gone worse...What on earth are you talking about now? We don't want Legacy people to play Standard, we want more people to play Legacy: we want people from Standard to play Legacy. This can happen because the DCI rating now counts.
Edit: wow, Nihil can make his posts disappear as if they've never existed
Edit2:Ah, I think I understand now. You're crazy. Again, this makes no sense.
Last edited by Skeggi; 10-24-2008 at 09:44 AM. Reason: Maveric78f tried to explain stuff...
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably delicious.
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What? With the introduction of Total rating, Standard doesn't matter one iota more than it already did. The reverse is true for Eternal formats, however. I can't understand your reasoning.
EDIT: Your new explanation still makes no sense. Why would a Legacy player move to Standard now if he did not do so already?
On a separate note, how is this Total rating going to be different from the current Composite rating?
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Maybe it will be total wins to losses compared to a given opponent's (opponents') wins to losses. That way your average doesn't tank because you have never played a format.
And if that's the case, it will attract no players from standard, just give our years of hard work an ounce of worth.
Last edited by Mulletus; 10-24-2008 at 09:49 AM. Reason: butt sex
Survival will be good forever... kinda like a maraschino cherry.
Because he's not starting his rating from scratch.
I would return you the question. Why would a Standart player move to Legacy now if he did not do so already?
Because he can lose points he won in standart ?
Because he thinks it's easier to get points in legacy, a format he does not even know ?
I really don't get.
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