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    Re: [Conflux] Spoiler Discussion

    Master Transmuter
    Artifact Creature - Human Artificer (R)
    , tap, return an artifact you control to your hand: Put an artifact card from your hand into play.
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    Blue Stax - maybe?

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    What would be the "blue stax" equivalent for either moat or humilty?
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    Meishin, maybe?


    Edit: nevermind, costs wayyyy too much. Although it'd be leet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowvamp View Post
    What would be the "blue stax" equivalent for either moat or humilty?
    Propaganda seems like a pretty strong choice.

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    Re: [Conflux] Spoiler Discussion

    Ensnaring Bridge and Meekstone also look fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sims View Post
    Meishin, maybe?


    Edit: nevermind, costs wayyyy too much. Although it'd be leet.
    If only that had a CC of 4. 1UUU, I wouldn't mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team-Hero View Post
    If only that had a CC of 4. 1UUU, I wouldn't mind.
    Triple blue wouldn't make it good in Stax, though. Besides, it doesn't exactly work with the Tezzeret win anyway since it nerfs your creatures too.

    Maybe MUC with Oona as the win, but I doubt that would be good.

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    Propaganda + Tabernacle + Polymorph for Titan =
    Ghostly Prison + Magus + Armageddon

    I still wouldn't play the Transmuter in there though.
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    I am often fascinated by how the smallest things in Magic can make or break a card. Look at this one:

    Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer - 1WU
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    {W}{U}, {T}: Put a Bribery counter on target creature you don't control. Its controller draws a card.
    A creature with a Bribery counter on it cannot attack or block.
    2/2

    It's not a word, not even a punctuation mark, it's a freaking line break that makes this unplayable. Leave the last ability alongside the first, and you get a Grey Ogre with "UW, T: Turn target creature into a random card", which is interesting and possibly playable. However, as printed, it reads instead "UW, T: Opponent draws a card, then kills me" - ew.
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    Telemin Performance - 3UU
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    Target opponent reveal cards from the top of his/her library until a creature card has been revealed. Put all non-creature cards revealed this way into that player's graveyard, then put the creature card into play under your control.

    Yes it's worse than bribery, but then take into acount that

    1) it's an instant one mana combo against combo decks since none of them run creatures.

    2) Against TA it rips their deck apart since they only run 8 creatures or so and you get a goyf or a stalker out of the process

    I can definatly see this in sideboards just for the extreme combo hate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Telemin Performance - 3UU
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    Target opponent reveal cards from the top of his/her library until a creature card has been revealed. Put all non-creature cards revealed this way into that player's graveyard, then put the creature card into play under your control
    ....
    I can definitly see this in sideboards just for the extreme combo hate...
    They could rename that card 'Goyf Angling". It seems much better suited to dealing with Aggro-control decks which tend to run a smaller number of high quality creatures. I wonder if it's vintage playable since it's an almost-kill vs. creatureless decks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    They could rename that card 'Goyf Angling". It seems much better suited to dealing with Aggro-control decks which tend to run a smaller number of high quality creatures. I wonder if it's vintage playable since it's an almost-kill vs. creatureless decks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    1) it's an instant one mana combo
    Wait, what?

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    In vintage it's a kill or it steal a colossus (or that blue creature that bounce when you play spell, the actual win condition of oath). It's a super bomb, and could be even restricted in that format. Don't know though, as i don't play that format.

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    Re: [Conflux] Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan View Post
    Wait, what?
    He meant one card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    In vintage it's a kill or it steal a colossus (or that blue creature that bounce when you play spell, the actual win condition of oath). It's a super bomb, and could be even restricted in that format. Don't know though, as i don't play that format.
    There are so many more broken things you could do in Vintage with 5 mana. Completely milling TPS with one card seems cute though. Probably tech SB material at best.
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    Re: [Conflux] Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    I can definatly see this in sideboards just for the extreme combo hate...
    Well there is another card...

    Force of Will

    Instant, 3UU (5)
    You may pay 1 life and remove a blue card in your hand from the game rather than pay Force of Will's mana cost.
    Counter target spell.1
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    Happens to be quite effective and you don't need 5 mana to play it.


    Also: If this would really see play combo players would board 1-off Phage and laugh their asses off when you cast Telemin Performance on them ;-)
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    Depending on what you're playing, some combo decks will board in Dark Confidants against you. I wouldn't mind losing a few spells off the top if it gets me a free Bob and threshold for Cabal Ritual.

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    I kind of like the Keredkt Parasite or whatever it is called that causes a damage whenever an opponent draws a card. It may not live for long, but it will probably do enough damage in most cases to make its one mana casting cost worth it. There is a lot of draw in this format, so it seems like a neat potential dork for some decks to try out.
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