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    Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    (this question is pulled from the single card discussion thread of Windscale Serpent)

    If this is the final wording on Windscale Serpent,
    Quote Originally Posted by idraleo View Post
    The final wording is "Put a +1/+1 counter on *this* whenever a spell or ability causes you to draw a card"
    ...then how many counters does it get from Brainstorm?

    3 or 1?

    I've assumed 3.
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    Re: Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    If you look at Sylvan Library, the extra ruling says:
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    This will count as 2 draws for anything that affects "drawn cards". [D'Angelo 1995/07/11]
    Also:
    Quote Originally Posted by Comprehensive Rules
    423.2. Cards may only be drawn one at a time. If a player is instructed to draw multiple cards, that player performs that many individual card draws.
    I'd say you get 3 counters. Ofcourse there will probably a ARB FAQ-notice concerning this issue once it is released.
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    Re: Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    423.2. Cards may only be drawn one at a time. If a player is instructed to draw multiple cards, that player performs that many individual card draws.
    Each draw is always a separate event. "Draw 3 cards" is essentially shorthand for "Draw a card. Draw a card. Draw a card."

    Because of this, abilities like Wisescale Serpent's will always trigger three times.

    Also, that's very unlikely to be the actual "final wording". It's written wrong and doesn't match what's on Salvation, but that's just nitpicking.
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    Re: Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    I can't imagine any changes in wording that will change the outcome of that answer.
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    Re: Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    As I said, nitpicking.
    “It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
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    Re: Windscale Serpent + Brainstorm = 3 Counters?

    Yep sorry, i' ve translated very bad, the right wording might be:

    "Whenever a spell or ability causes you to draw a card, put a +1/+1 counter on *this*"

    I' m not sure if it says "at the end of turn" or not, in that case it obv sucks :D
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