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    Huh, I happened to just see a thread about this the other day. Di recommends putting 4 coins on each of the corners of the foil (that is, under it), then setting something across the top. Well, so the foil can be flexed just a little bit in the opposite direction.

    In other news, I'm actually buying cards for this. I just won a foil jitte today :P

    And on topic...Yeah, got nothing, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beastman View Post
    You don't need foils to rape in style. But if your huberus will settle for nothing less, I would suggest keeping them pressed inside a big book until the tournament starts. I used to do that when my foils got bent, and it usually worked for me.
    Thanks. Yeah i know I'm like uber cocky too, but it comes with my personality i guess.

    Do you know how much foil M10 Bolts are running for? I have foreign beta ones i just want to try and foil all my deck.

    Edit: I have like half my deck in foil, and i don't think i have that many coins... And wouldn't that leave indention marks on the cards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch View Post
    Thanks. Yeah i know I'm like uber cocky too, but it comes with my personality i guess.

    Do you know how much foil M10 Bolts are running for? I have foreign beta ones i just want to try and foil all my deck.
    Foreign beta bolts are as pimp as they come. On star city they are going for 13 at foil, but to be a true pimp, you must get the japanese foils which I would guess are about 30 each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch View Post
    I'm getting to play Legacy after a 2 month absence tomorrow, and i can't get my Zoo foils to flatten out. I left em under a dictionary while i was on vacation and still nothing.
    Been there. Putting them under a book, even for several months, won't do a damn thing. You need to actually bend the cards in the opposite direction for an extended period of time to get the cards to flatten out. Here's what I do:

    1. Get an empty 2-liter pop bottle. Remove the wrapper.

    2. Put the offending cards in sleeves.

    3. Use scotch tape to fasten the sleeved cards to the outside of the pop bottle, so that the curl of the card is inverted. You should be able to fit 4 cards around the circumference of the bottle in this way.

    4. Leave the cards like that for 2-5 days, depending on how bad the curling is. Once you remove them, they may be slightly bent in the opposite direction. Don't worry; they'll flatten out before long.
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    @beastman: I've never been one for foreign foils. And i don't have much money so i have to win to be able to get what i got. I have a German Goyf from my friend, and I've pretty much given up on getting those foil for a while. I'm working on my Jittes now. And i want to foil Isamaru, but he is the next thing to be cut, so much work to be done.

    @Volt: Well damn. I would have never about that in a million years. It's also humorous that you called it a "pop" bottle. The people from South just assume that EVERYTHING is coke. Kinda annoying..

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    Bailey, the coin trick works. I've used it myself and if you keep the cards sleeved you shouldn't get any marks. Use coins on the corners then put like season of DVDs down the middle. It isn't an instant fix but it didn't jack up my cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volt View Post

    1. Get an empty 2-liter pop bottle. Screw the cap on to keep air from getting out.
    I bet this would work with a coffee can or something else cylindrical too.

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    Volt, that is excellent. I simply never use mine but I may try this. I think that advice should be stickied somewhere.

    Also, I noticed that nobody ever quite said yes or no when I mentioned Jotun Grunt in my decklist posted a few weeks ago. I tested it some in this deck. And some in another. All alongside Tarmogoyf. And I liked it well enough. I am just unsure in this particular deck. I would love to hear some folks voice opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Volt, that is excellent. I simply never use mine but I may try this. I think that advice should be stickied somewhere.

    Also, I noticed that nobody ever quite said yes or no when I mentioned Jotun Grunt in my decklist posted a few weeks ago. I tested it some in this deck. And some in another. All alongside Tarmogoyf. And I liked it well enough. I am just unsure in this particular deck. I would love to hear some folks voice opinions.
    Pretty good with Goyf, but bad in combination with Lavamancer AND Goyf.

    MD Graveyard hate is pretty sweet too. And 4/4s are good as well.

    I ran him for a few weeks, and he was either really good, or shrinked Goyf 1 or 2 power. So it's your call.

    Edit:Huberus is pride if i remember correctly. Something of that sort of thing.
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    Grunt: I like him, havent had a time to play him much but its tempting.

    Hubris: Excessive pride to a fault, yea. Its used a lot as a tragic flaw in plays and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keys View Post
    I bet this would work with a coffee can or something else cylindrical too.
    Of course.
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    Hubris. It's basically what greek heroes experience when theyr'e self assertained enough to defy, and consequently get majorly jacked by, fate, the gods, and the world in general.

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    I've never tried running grunt and goyf in the same deck, since usually I run grunt as my anti-goyf weapon. However, depending on your build of the deck, I believe that could be a very legitimate tactic. My build would not be able to play grunt because I play too many permanents, but in a more burn-heavy build I could see it being very good.

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    Other than Jitte, are extra Paths the best way to board against the mirror?

    Also, Wasteland and KotR are sick together.

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    Do you think Knight of the reliquary can have a place with 8 -10 fetchland and 2-4 wasteland/horizon canopy manabase?

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    KotR is great in the Extended version, for the sole reason that it needs a 3-drop that is large. We have other requirements however, and a much quicker format. KotR seems like win-more to me. Woolly Thoctar is probably large enough and aggressive enough to fulfill this role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rukcus View Post
    KotR is great in the Extended version, for the sole reason that it needs a 3-drop that is large. We have other requirements however, and a much quicker format. KotR seems like win-more to me. Woolly Thoctar is probably large enough and aggressive enough to fulfill this role.
    Ive actually recently replaced thoctar for Knights. I like that they are easier to cast (no red), they cant be BeB'd or Pyroblasted, and they can ultimately get bigger than Thoctar. I need to do more testing, but Ive always liked him in that slot.

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    I think that Knight is better. He usually will start out a little smaller than thoctar (3/3 or 4/4 easily). While that's a little detriment, the fact that he can always get bigger than other things in the format if you need him to more than makes up for the slight detriment to P/T over thoctar. Keep in mind to that the later you play/draw knight, the more likely that he will in fact just be bigger than thoctar. Then there's also the other little things, like if you're running canopy, he can draw you into some more threats or allowing for a T4 jitte + equip on one of your other guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asfas View Post
    Other than Jitte, are extra Paths the best way to board against the mirror?

    Also, Wasteland and KotR are sick together.
    This is my first post, so hopefully I'm doing ok by posting here. I managed to go 3-1 at a 25ish person tourney with Zoo, and wanted to share my experience.

    One of my rounds was the against another Zoo deck. The main differences was I was running Lightning Helix instead of Price of Progress, and he had Jitte, whereas I did not. I also had Mogg Fanatic instead of lavamancer, because I did not have any at the time. The mirror was actually the only time I was happy to see the fanatic instead of lavamancer

    I ended up going 2-0 against him, and both games I beat him because he had Jitte. I would path or burn all his creatures and leave jitte on an empty board. The second game he actually had 2 jitte on the board and no creatures. So maybe I got lucky, but Jitte seemed terrible in the mirror, and in most other games when I played it, it would have been a "win more" card. Lightning Helix was actually one of the better cards in the mirror as well. Playing it basically cancels out one of their burn spells, so it's almost like a cantriping lightning bolt :)

    The other rounds were against a mono black deck with a whole bunch of drain life effects. Absolutely nothing in my board or MD was of any use to me against this deck. Added Sulfuric Vortex to the board since then. Went 0-2 and probably would have went 0-10 if we had played 10 games. I also played and beat fairly easily a Merfolk deck and a combo deck. The person with the combo deck was new at playing combo, so I don't think it was a real test of the deck.

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    Re: [DTB] Zoo

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmerz213 View Post
    Ive actually recently replaced thoctar for Knights. I like that they are easier to cast (no red), they cant be BeB'd or Pyroblasted, and they can ultimately get bigger than Thoctar. I need to do more testing, but Ive always liked him in that slot.

    I did the same. He is much better than thoctar as he is easier to cast than thoctar, and if you are running canopy, which you probably should be, he can get much bigger very fast, while he sculpts your hand a little bit at the same time.
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