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    KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    No one's seen it coming but we all know, that this would happen:

    I introduce to you:

    KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx) (september 18th, 09 version)

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    Lands [25]
    4 Wasteland
    4 Mishra'S Factory
    2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    4 Crystal Vein
    4 City of Traitors
    4 Ancient Tomb
    1 Gargoyle Castle
    2 Rishadan Port

    Creatures [5]
    4 Metalworker
    1 Karn, Silver GOlem

    Artefact [30]

    1 Staff of Domination
    2 Bottled Cloister
    3 Tangle Wire
    4 Smokestack
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Ensnaring Bridge
    4 Mox Diamond
    3 Trinisphere
    2 Powder Keg
    4 Crucible of Worlds

    Sideboardsuggestions:
    - Orb of Dreams
    - Defense Grid
    - Relic of Progenitus
    - Silent Arbiter
    - Bottled Cloister
    - Pithing Needle

    Win-on-the-spots:
    - Helm of Obedience + Leyline
    - Painterstone Combo

    This is my first sketch and take on this deck.

    The advantage over other staxx-builds is the metalworker, who enables a lockout of the opponent on the second turn.

    I'm also looking at a version splashing Goblin Welder for recursioness - could be good.
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    I'm working on the same deck...Metalworker is just so sexy!

    About your list: 4 Tabernacle?? No. Yes its good, but it doesnt provide mana. And its legendary. I'd try Darksteel Citadel, Nexus or Rishadan Port.
    Top is not good, because you run chalice.
    I'm considering Sphere of Resistance, and Staff of Domination for wincon. Also, Bottoled Cloister should be in maindeck, its very strong with Ensnaring Bridge. And I'd play moar Tangle Wires. They buy you some time to do the thing.

    I'll post my list as soon as I finish it.

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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Why not going a bit more sun tower?

    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 City of Traitors
    4 Crystal Vein
    4 Taiga
    1 Windswept Heath
    4 Mishra’s Factory
    3 Barbarian Ring
    2 Wasteland
    4 Mox Diamond
    4 Crucible of Worlds
    3 Sylvan Library
    2 Uba Mask
    4 Smokestack
    4 Metalworker
    4 Chalice of the Void
    1 Pithing Needle
    3 Pyroclasm
    2 Rolling Earthquake
    4 Trinisphere

    Uba mask seems devastating for most other control decks and combo, mass removal should take care of any pesky creatures on the ground.
    This is just the list that I found somewhere here. Seems interesting enough though.
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    Do you guys think tezzeret would fit in this?

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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mastikor View Post
    I'm working on the same deck...Metalworker is just so sexy!

    About your list: 4 Tabernacle?? No. Yes its good, but it doesnt provide mana. And its legendary. I'd try Darksteel Citadel, Nexus or Rishadan Port.
    Top is not good, because you run chalice.
    I'm considering Sphere of Resistance, and Staff of Domination for wincon. Also, Bottoled Cloister should be in maindeck, its very strong with Ensnaring Bridge. And I'd play moar Tangle Wires. They buy you some time to do the thing.

    I'll post my list as soon as I finish it.
    Since merfolk reigns and goblins are on the rise post zendikar I thought we need something, that holds off all those swarmaggro guys. 4 Tabernacle ensures that you draw one, maybe two. Since I also run Mox Diamonds I always can get rid of unneeded copies.
    And when I cut some, I'll up the Gargoyle Castle count.
    I agree with top and will go for -3 Top +1 Tangle Wire +2 Bottle Cloister.
    Sphere of Resistance is something I considered, but I would pack just some in the side.
    And I rather build some robots with karn then going for Staff. I just love that thing.
    When you are interested we could work something out together since our list seem to have a lot in common.
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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    I think tezzeret would be better than karn in this as karn would only create weenies whereas tezzeret gives you 5/5's in 2 turns

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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshepherdman View Post
    I think tezzeret would be better than karn in this as karn would only create weenies whereas tezzeret gives you 5/5's in 2 turns
    karn gives you (on the back of metalworker) some 3/3's and some 4/4's and attacks himself for 4 which should be as fast as tezzeret.
    The difference is that karn does not require a splash and won't die to tarmogoyf.
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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Metalworker should imo be played with staff of domination. With staff, metalworker and a Mishras Factory and enought cards in your hand, that factory is going to kill the opponent.

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    Sun Tower was more akin to Cron Stax than MUD due to its heavy use of non-artifact spells (epecially out of the sb). You'd probably want to keep this closer to mono brown (maybe Welder is finally good enough with a couple different targets to pick on besides itself).

    Also, Uba Mask isn't nearly as good as you'd like to be against combo (at least not as good as I'd like to be). Sure, it sucks for them until they empty their hand, but if they can do that, they get to play with 4 Ancestral Recall, 4 Black Lotus, and 4 Demonic Tutor while you play with...well, they've probably killed you anyway since you spent 4 mana doing something that wasn't stopping them from winning.

    Also, deck wants more fat robots. (creature base of 4 Welder, 4 Metalworker, 4 Razorcore, 2-3 Karn comes to mind)
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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Metalworker should imo be played with staff of domination. With staff, metalworker and a Mishras Factory and enought cards in your hand, that factory is going to kill the opponent.
    Yeah, u r right, totally missed that combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Metalworker should imo be played with staff of domination. With staff, metalworker and a Mishras Factory and enought cards in your hand, that factory is going to kill the opponent.
    Well, with metalworker, staff and enough cards in hand, you'll have infinite mana and each card of your library... On that point I think you don't need the Factory: you can drop all your library in play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinch View Post
    Well, with metalworker, staff and enough cards in hand, you'll have infinite mana and each card of your library... On that point I think you don't need the Factory: you can drop all your library in play...
    With the factory you can win when the combo hits play and goes of. Infinit life, draw and infinit large Mishras Factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Metalworker should imo be played with staff of domination. With staff, metalworker and a Mishras Factory and enought cards in your hand, that factory is going to kill the opponent.
    Isn't it better to have a kill condition like Magma Mine and use the infinite mana from Metalworker+Staff to go boom?
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    Ok here's the list I'm testing at the moment:

    4 City
    4 Tomb
    4 Vein
    4 Wasteland
    4 Factory
    4 Rishadan Port
    1 Academy Ruins
    1 Tabernacle

    4 Metalworker
    1 Karn

    4 Mox
    4 Chalice
    3 Trini
    3 Crucible
    3 Stack
    3 Tangle Wire
    3 Cloister
    3 Bridge
    3 Staff

    Tell me what you think...it still has to be tuned finely.

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    Well, I think that if you play 3 Trinispheres, 4 Chalices (at 1,2,3 and 4 for example), 3 tangle wires, 4 smokestacks and gain an arbitral amount of life in one turn, you just have win... I don't think you need a X-damage speel to acompish that...

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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Quote Originally Posted by EaD View Post
    Yeah, u r right, totally missed that combo.
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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Karn Tetris is Kinda a Dull name... I was gonna go "Hungry Like the Wolf"

    Here is what I'm thinking...

    4 Mox Diamond
    4 Crucible of Worlds
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Trinisphere
    3 Smokestacks
    2 Karn Silver Golem
    4 Tangle Wire
    4 Metalworker
    4 Staff of Domination
    2 Thran Dynamo
    1 Banefire

    4 City of Traitors
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Crystal Vein
    4 Wasteland
    4 Mishra's Factory
    1 Gargoyle Castle
    1 Barbarian Ring
    1 Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    2 Open....

    Sideboard
    Xx Caltrops
    Xx Sphere of Resisitance
    1x Trinisphere
    Xx Magus of the Moon
    Xx Powder Keg
    Xx Firespout (Even R. Earthquake)
    Xx Defense Grid
    Xx Silent Arbitor


    You better get ahold of the Rolling Earthquakes now! Before Metalworker raises their Price (I got 4 Selling on eBay right now! Buy it nows!) I think the deck looks good, not to mention you just go control heavy with the smokestacks, or Pump Factory to a 133/133, or just a single banefire for when you draw your deck out, Banefire is not as random as you think, because the synergy with SoD and Mw just works.... You can do so much with metalworker! (ABUSE THE HELL OUT OF IT!)
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    Tetris is a cool name for an awesome deck.

    The deck stalls very good, though I don't like playing Bridges because I try to keep my hand filled for my metalworker. This counteracts your tries to kill the enemy.

    Awesome thing is, that you can even kill Life.dec. Not that it would actually matter...

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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nidd View Post
    Tetris is a cool name for an awesome deck.

    The deck stalls very good, though I don't like playing Bridges because I try to keep my hand filled for my metalworker. This counteracts your tries to kill the enemy.

    Awesome thing is, that you can even kill Life.dec. Not that it would actually matter...
    Well, Bridges combo out nicely with bottled cloister and is good after you spit your hand on the battlefield.
    I still have to test this deck, but so far it was pretty funny to play. :)
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    Re: KarnTetris (Monobrown Staxx)

    Oh, damned, I missed that combo. Yes, Cloister + Bridge looks quite nice.

    I just don't know... Bottled Cloister sucks, if it gets destroyed. It's worse than discarding your whole hand. I don#t know whether you can play such a card without a proper protectionsuit.

    Also, when is the right time to drop down a Metalworker? Let's assume it's G1, you have no information about your opponent and you're on the play. Should I drop it T1 if possible or wait?

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