Is there no card that can burn the opponent while we disrupt their graveyard?
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Mogg Fanatic against Bridge from Below, but no, not really.Originally Posted by Pltnmngl
I know it's been beat to death and I understand there's a lot of controversy over it, but I have to ask: Browbeat.
Is it viable at all? More cards isn't a bad thing for this deck, and 5-damage for 3-mana isn't too shabby either. Also, it's easier to sneak it past Counter-Top compared to 1CMC and 2CMC spells.
Yes, you can use it. There is no problem with it in Legacy. However, it is entirely dependent on the deck, player, and meta. Test it out for yourself. If you like it, that's great, if not, too bad. But whatever you do, do not ask for advice at all. As I said, deck, player, meta.
The thing about Browbeat, which I assume is why everyone hates it, is that you never the get the truly desired result of killing your opponent right now. If they are at 5 or less, they will let you draw the cards (and possibly counter whatever you play that is directly relevant to winning). Otherwise, they'll just take the five and be happy with the fact that you just tapped 3 lands. Therefore, it is almost never a good turn 3 or 4 play. So if I'm not going to play it in my first 4 turns, why should I run it? (Please don't reply. We actually are not allowed to talk about Browbeat)
Not to mention, statistics speak for themselves. Browbeat has been doing better in non-burn decks than burn itself. Check out Deckcheck.net
Speaking of which, have you guys seen the most used cards for burn lately? Pretty surprising to me...
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I've seen some weird stuff in some burn decks. Whats the newly played stuff?
Most of it junk, but I want to know specifically what he means, too.
http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?ty...&format=Legacy
Look at the most played cards in the deck type...
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I see the Marauders, Fanatics and Hellsparks. No Surprise, though I personally don't want ANY creatures in burn.
Hmmm.. Pithing Needle is a bit odd, but understandable as it shuts down Top.
Also, burn decks need to add Manamorphose. Free cycling once you hit two mana is fun.
I really, really wish this was a mountain. Thing is, if Burn hits 6 lands total, it's probably lost already.
Nothing stands out. I wouldn't criticize a player for any of these.
volcanic fallout is more popular than flamebreak
Does this really suprise you? I mean, Fallout is uncounterable.
That's basically the deck and SB right there.
Personally I still prefer flamebreak, 2 damage are not enough to me. Anyways, we have discussed both cards a lot. I remember the conclusion was that fallout works better in the sideboard while flamebreak should be played main.
Relic of Progenitus effectively does this, because it cantrips. I've been running a couple MD for a while and its actually worked great. Worst case scenario, its 2 mana Draw a Card, but there are very few decks out there that it's dead against.
I can't think of anything like that. That new black enchantment with tombscour was getting talked about, but that's sorta different.
In a somewhat different note, I like Kaervek's Purge.. for 4cc you can destroy their Goyf and make them eat 4-5 damage lol
Fallout hits Faeries and Gobbos (doesn't matter with Gobbos, though), I guess, but not much else. The folk of mer pump, Thresh is too big, Eva Green won't let you have the mana, Team America is too big, etc.
gobbos has no counters, so flamebreak would work better here.
we can discuss the pairing against merfolks, they can cut your flamebreak easily, but with two lords in play you are done if you play fallout.
Would a splash of Black for Bloodchief Ascension and Bloodghast have any potential, or would that be another deck entirely?
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