Spells: (22)
4x Manabond
4x Life From the Loam
4x Exploration
4x Burning Wish
3x Scapeshift
3x Mulch
Lands: (38)
4 x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
4x Taiga
4x Stomping Ground
8x Mountain
4x Wooded Foothills
4x Arid Mesa
4x Maze of Ith
2x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Sideboard:
1x Scapeshift
14 x No Idea Yet
I know it still needs alot of work, so any comments, critiques, or suggestions are welcome. Please be blunt, if its terrible tell me.
Last edited by av310; 10-16-2009 at 02:20 PM.
The best use of this would be a 43 Land build deeper R splash. Right now you run far to many mana producing lands with nothing to spend it on. Without utility lands i.e. Maze of Ith, you are going to get run over by aggro.
Originally Posted by David Ochoa
You might want to check out 43land as a template. You should definitely run Life from the Loam and probably Manabond. If you drop enough mountains with Manabond, they all trigger. Life from the Loam can replace Stifle as Wasteland protection.
I feel like your Zoo matchup would be over quickly... you only have 4 spot removal slots, and you're going to feel the pressure before you have 5 lands in play. When you do, Price of Progress hits you for at least 10, Fireblast finishes you. Seems bleak. Post board Grips make it even harder to get the job done.
I think you need to think more basic lands, and Loam. Have you tried a Loam engine instead?
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This deck seems like it would love fireblast. Drop two lands deal 6, sac them both to fireblast for 4, then play them again the same turn or next turn.
Okay. I took the idea of using 43 land as a template and completely rebuilt it.
I edited the first post with all the changes
I like that a lot.
I'll try to fit it in.
How about giving this deck an insta-win: Scapeshift
Just stick 3 Scapeshifts in with dropping lands onto the table quickly and there you go. The minimum win conditions:
Scapeshift in hand, 7 land on the table, 5 Mountains and 2 Valakut in the deck.
Cast Scapeshift, sac all your land, the 5 Mountains and 2 Valakut enter play at the same time, thus triggering Valakut (x2) for each Mountain entering. If I'm correct, that should be 30 damage right there.
You could play Orim's Chant and Silence to make sure your Scapeshift does not get countered. Or even better, just make sure Bosejiu is among your 7 lands on the table to cast the Scapeshift.
The shell can remain 43 land, since you only need 4 mana to cast it (one from Bosejiu). Thus having Maze of Ith (x4) or Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale is no problem to stop aggro strategies. You could also safely maindeck Chalice of the Void, as your kill spell costs 4 mana.
Just a thought though, but I think it would fix the problem 43 land has (ie: being soooo damn slow to win).
It looks like it would get slaughtered by almost everything in the DTB section because it doesn't have a fast reliable clock, or strong protection.
In theory, it could work with a 43 lands style dredge approach, but Valakut wants mountains which is contradictory to 43 lands' manland/utility land plan, so the deck would, basically, have to be committed to the Valakut plan.
Another possibility would be to try some kind of aggro-loam deck. That deck already plays lots of mountains and recycles lands. Putting 1x Valakut in the deck and 1x Scapeshift in the sideboard (so it can be wished for) is probably not the worst way to go.
I had contemplated Natural Balance/New Frontiers, but I think that approach is fundamentally too slow for Legacy.
Play fucking four.
Kill condition: Boseiju+Scapeshift
You could be right, but i would think it would take 6 mountains because they wouldn't count themselves. Im not saying I'm right, because there could very easily be some rule i cannot think of or do not know that makes you correct, but as far as i can see you would need 6.How about giving this deck an insta-win: Scapeshift
Just stick 3 Scapeshifts in with dropping lands onto the table quickly and there you go. The minimum win conditions:
Scapeshift in hand, 7 land on the table, 5 Mountains and 2 Valakut in the deck.
Cast Scapeshift, sac all your land, the 5 Mountains and 2 Valakut enter play at the same time, thus triggering Valakut (x2) for each Mountain entering. If I'm correct, that should be 30 damage right there.
You could play Orim's Chant and Silence to make sure your Scapeshift does not get countered. Or even better, just make sure Bosejiu is among your 7 lands on the table to cast the Scapeshift.
The shell can remain 43 land, since you only need 4 mana to cast it (one from Bosejiu). Thus having Maze of Ith (x4) or Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale is no problem to stop aggro strategies. You could also safely maindeck Chalice of the Void, as your kill spell costs 4 mana.
Just a thought though, but I think it would fix the problem 43 land has (ie: being soooo damn slow to win).
Play four Exploration and ditch the CoWs. Loam is enough and a better choice since you run Manabond.
Edit: Fireblast is bad. It is win more and counter productive - lowering the mountain count. It also gets trashed by Manabond.
Doublt Edit: Fuck me. Oracle is bad. You can also lower the Bring count since you are running Valakut. One should be good it still provides you with another colorless damage source, as it does not count as a mountain I would not go over one.
I actually had made a second complete overhaul about the same time you posted this, and I inadvertently did everything you suggested here.
Valakut requires 5 *other* mountains, so it's 6 mountains minimum.
Well, because Valakut is not a mountain, wouldn't it look for 5 other mountains for each of the 5 mountains, and only see 4 for each so none would trigger it?
Right.
Some cards you might consider for your deck, BTW:
Gamble
Devastating Dreams
Mox Diamond
Beseech the Queen
Recoup
Prismatic Omen works well with Scapeshift and Valakut.
And blood moon and magus of the moon ;)
So you can make a hate deck that wins with valakut. Something like dragon stompy but with valakut as the finisher ;)
Unfortunately Blood Moon and Magus of the Moon make Valakut a Mountain.
Looks like a fun deck. Unwinnable burn and combo MU though.
Spells: (17)
2x Life From the Loam
4x Exploration
4x Burning Wish
3x Scapeshift
4x Entomb
Creatures: (7)
3x Azusa
4x Oracle of Mul Daya
Utility Lands: (19)
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4x Wasteland
4x Rishadan Port
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Maze of Ith
1x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1x Glacial Chiasm
2x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
4x cyclers (3 red, 1 green)
Mountains (15)
4x Taiga
2x Stomping Ground
1x Mountain
2x Badlands
6x Mountain Fetch
Sideboard:
1x Scapeshift
2x Life from the Loam
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