[Deck] UW(x) Landstill

**wolfstorm** · 10-15-2009 05:12 PM

I was just saying the singleton trap in the board can sometimes end games with cunning wish and then removing there whole GY. like they dredge then play then you remove the entire yard right after, seems strong and just having that option is always nice game 1.

Also in Austin from what I've seen there's only two people here that ever play combo, me and my friend and I've recently given up the arch type since everyone loves counter top & force of will here. Then again everyone I know seems to own the entire card pool for legacy and could just play whatever the hell they want :/...

Feel free to step by battleforge games(http://battleforgegames.com/) at 7 PM btw after the PT for our weekly legacy, if your with Drew hes been there a couple of times.

**GGoober** · 10-15-2009 05:31 PM

That's awesome. I am buddies with Drew at Asgards. We'll see if we can hit a Legacy weekend there. I see that it's on a Friday, which clashes with the PT Legacy event. Maybe a Saturday/Sunday or late at night would be good? I'll probably end up doing 2 Extirpates and 1 Trap in the SB and board in the Extirpates and leave Trap in the SB.

Anyway, thanks for the insight on Austin's meta. I know the last time at Waco, there were many decks, and I remember seeing one dreadstill.

I think I'll stick with the 2 decrees and find a slot for the single Path in the MD. I'm already at a low 17 blue count for my deck so I can't really cut anything much except for Decrees or the 4th Goyf.

**Reagens** · 10-16-2009 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Morbid-

I think 3 Path to Exile is pretty crucial in the SB for Goblins (and aggro in general, all agree?), as increasing your chances of drawing a 1cc removal spell to answer a Lackey is huge if you can't Force (or are holding Force back for something else). How was running 4 Plague? I think 3 was an okay number for me. The last time I ran Konsultant's 61, I played at a shop my friends and I go to br/tri-weekly.

Started 1-2, losing to Mono-Red Goblins in g3 (Elspeth final'ed 1/1 Soldiers staring down a horde of goblins, and then a SGC hits the board. Next card was FoW.

). I ask about the Plagues because that's the game where I had 3 and didn't see any. I didn't let Lackey get damage in, however, with StP/PtE/EE.

I also lost to Doomsday combo, which brings me to your Chants in the SB. I am thinking about trying those out against Combo the next time we play. Can always get the guy to go below 10 with Factories/DoJ, just not anymore. Could be good as a response to their own Chants. I wound up ending that night 1-3, scooping to my friend with Enchantress so he could play in T4. That said, we still played it out, and to comment on what you said: from playing against my friend and looking at most lists, I see what? 2? 3 Replenishes? If you save your counters for Replenishes, City of Solitude, and let EE take care of the 2cc cards like Argothian Enchantress, Sterling Grove (gives shroud...

), you should be in good shape. I'm not saying it was favorable, but I think I had pretty good board position the whole time through. Postboard, -4 StP -3 Standstill, +2 Spell Snare +3 Negate +2 Relic of Progenitus suited the deck a lot better.

<Took out the part of the GY, add later> I will say though, I think you need +1 CoW, and take out the Ajani's. I haven't played with them in a long time.

The SB I ran that night was:

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2 Spell Snare
3 Negate
3 EP
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Relic of Progenitus
3 Path to Exile

Pretty generic, I have yet to try out Preacher against Merfolk (reasons (1) I've been ripped on MOTL for trying to get them, and (2) I haven't seen Merfolk in a while) though.

Engineered plague: Since there is a lot of tribal in my area I think 4 is warranted. I won my games on double plague (1 is not very useful). So I'd recommend 4 because eventually you want double plague to lock them out of the game. Path is useful against lackey but doesn't solve the problem that you are eventually outdrawn (ringleader, matron,...) by them.

Chant is a very cheap anti combo card which can be useful against other decks as well (I used it against enchantress to time walk them).

Extirpate is in because it is (or can be) both an answer to gy dependant decks (intuition control, loam variants, recurring decks) and provides additional hate against combo (fetch-tendrils no longer has acces to burning wish thus a well timed extirpate can seal the game.

I feel I need 5 anti-combo slots and those fit nicely.

Enchantress. I played quite a few times against the deck and felt that although the games are very long the advantage lies with enchantress. In the past I always tried to stop the engine by keeping enchantress and enchantress like effects off the table. This was VERY unsuccesful. This time my main targets were karmic justice, replenish, words of war, hoofprints of the stag and city of solitude. In a very long game 1 I managed to counter six of such spells and maybe vindicated another. In other words I was very lucky to take game 1 but I stand by the strategy for now. Game 2 I had more and more effective tools at my disposal, but it was very close again. Explosives is a very circumstancial answer that has too many loopholes (enchantress is at 2 while presence is at 3, with active karmic justice it becomes even worse...)
The only sure way of beating the deck is getting elspeth's ultimate and lock the game out with disk. I won that 2nd game by quite litteraly decking my opponent.

Ajani definetly deserves some credit, since it helps you stabilise against burn or decks packing some burn. At the very least it gets 5 damage aimed at its head which is just as well. (and you still gained 2 live).
Sometimes the threat of an avatar token can disrupt your opponent's strategies as well (thus giving you more time).

I personally never miss wish all that much. It's too mana intensive and takes up a lot of SB space. The fact that it's blue is another con (being vulnerable to red blasts etc).

On the very hot debate of CB or not it is my opinion that for the same reason that counterbalance doesn't work AGAINST you, it will not work FOR you. Assuming that you are running a version like mine (well maybe not quite 'mine') with CC ranging from 1-5. I think it would be very difficult to consistently have the right cards on top of your library to disrupt your opponent. It would become mana intensive and it also obliges you to run SDT which I find not that useful in landstill.

Crucible of Worlds came in the place of Liliana Vess which was too difficult to cast for me. It's a very flexible slot that allows you to have an out against recurring wasteland among other things. Depending on the shifts of the metagame I can see this slot change from time to time. It also allows you to set-up a wastelock of your own in some situations. Probably I would run something extra to disrupt tribal next tournament.

**Mark Sun** · 10-16-2009 04:06 PM