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    Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    Blue Period

    Creatures (8)
    4x Painter’s Servant
    4x Phyrexian Dreadnought

    Enchantments (3)
    3x Counterbalance

    Spells (23)
    3x Daze
    4x Force of Will
    4x Standstill
    4x Brainstorm
    4x Stifle
    4x Intuition

    Artifacts (10)
    4x Grindstone
    4x Chrome Mox
    2x Sensei’s Divining Top

    Lands (16)
    2x Polluted Delta
    1x Scalding Tarn
    2x Flooded Strand
    1x Misty Rainforest
    5x Island
    1x Academy Ruins
    4x Ancient Tomb

    Sideboard
    3x Pithing Needle
    2x Tormod’s Crypt
    1x Relic of Progenitus
    1x Daze
    2x Blue Elemental Blast
    2x Hydroblast
    4x Rushing River

    I am not quite sure which thread this deck should go to, since it utilizes the old monoblue Dreadstill shell but with an extra combo integrated. Since Dreadstill seems to have gone the tempo route and this is more combo, I guess I have to throw it in as a separate thread. The deck lacks originality, but has worked so far for me in testing and the last tourney I went to at That's E last Sunday (4-1). There is a lack of direct synergy between the combos, but both fit into the low mana curve shell, a glass cannon. Essentially, it is an attempt at front-loading more threat into Dreadstill to make it win 'out of nowhere' at any given time instead of having support mechanisms to allow it to survive swings. I tried to see if the deck can be developed into a UW variant, where it can pack Orim's Chant and better disruptive removal, but couldn't find a balance to keep the deck consistent enough, due to its fairly fragile mana base of only twenty sources. Same goes for exploring a 'more Goyf' UG variant.

    Card selection essentially sacrifices much of the sit-back control elements such as Spell Snare and is more heavily front-loaded with combo pieces that just stay in play. Additional acceleration is given by Ancient Tomb. Additional synergy compared to Dreadstill includes:
    • milling oneself with Grindstone when a Fetch is not available after a Brainstorm or Top peek

    • Painter's Servant makes any card a pitch for Force of Will, but is a double-edged sword

    The deck is vulnerable to cheap artifact removal and lacks genuine removal, but it is presently still very much a prototype. I have found myself completely cutting counterbalance against higher curving decks.
    Last edited by Dilettante; 12-06-2009 at 08:25 AM.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    This deck is called 'Trinket Painter' and kind of already exists.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    Link to thread? Couldn't find one akin.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...t=13263&page=9

    Or as in this case, it's called Next Level Painter.

    Whatever, the idea remains the same: A combination of Painter's Stone, Trinket Mage + some alternative kill (in most cases 12/12).

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    Its a damn question to sleeve 1-3 Dreadnoughts into a Painter list or putting the Painter combo into a Dreadstill list, i think second is not that good as dreadstill wouldn't affort any combos beside the dreadnought.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    With no manlands to apply pressure, Standstill will be dead much of the time. Sure you may trick a few players into breaking it, but without a supporting strategy you may end up holding it while waiting for somethng relevant.
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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    In the line of Whienot you might think of Ancestral Visions > Standstill?

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    As a pure deck, it is definitely not optimal in doing what either of the mentioned decks do, as it is a muddled deck. The advantages come in how your opponent reacts to the deck. The different variety of turn 1-2 plays set off warning signs from the opponent, forcing them to be reactionary and to sit back. Stiflenaught is largely a reactionary deck save the few times the stiflenaught combo is drawn into. This variant is more openly aggressive. It is a different playstyle, as the potential turn 2-3 wins are magnified in addition to the speed of the painter combo being 'immediate', making popping a standstill a more risky proposition, as opposed to relying on sitting behind counters and a slower clock in Goyf. The Painter combo can hit critical mass behind Standstill and just go off. As another effect, opponents are more prone or forced to mulligan for early gas.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    This deck is missing two things. Mishra's Factory and Wasteland. Without it Standstill is a sub optimal card.

    Why not run Thirst For Knowledge instead of Standstill? You have quite a high artifact count as is, as well as Tomb and Moxen to accelerate into it. I'd up the Academy Ruins count to two if I chose this route though.

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    I'll give Thirst a test later. Sounds like a good idea. Would help out Counterbalance slightly. Would Misdirections in SB be worth it for Zoo, et al, instead of blasts?

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    Re: Blue Period (Dreadstill / Painter)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dilettante View Post
    I'll give Thirst a test later. Sounds like a good idea. Would help out Counterbalance slightly. Would Misdirections in SB be worth it for Zoo, et al, instead of blasts?
    Misdirection would only be good with a Painter in play, correct? FoW would probably be the only card disadvantage enabler that I'd be willing to run. Misdirection is narrow while blasts not only help against Goblins AND Zoo but can also target lands with a Painter in play. I vote "no" on the Misdirections but it's really your call.

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