Thanks a lot for posting the above lists. I strongly dislike that Loam list, but I give him props for winning. Guess he just played against Thresh the whole time!
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What's wrong with the winning list? It's actually pretty good, but I'm not sure about the singleton Terravore.Originally Posted by Pulp_Fiction
My question to anyone that attended is: Was there any combo in the room?
If you think of it as the 5th Crusher it makes more sense.
Cedric played Belcher.My question to anyone that attended is: Was there any combo in the room?
According to the coverage there was alot of dredge as well. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was alot of threshold/merfolk there considering 3 of them made top 8 and the other 5 slots are decks that do well against them.
That would explain the lack of combo in the top 8.
The presence of 4 Leylines/ Crypt/ relic in all of the sideboards explains the lack of dredge in the top 8.
I punted a doomsday pile vs Mr. Boss (Aggro Loam in t8). We were both X-1 in round 5 or 6. I'm playing NLS and he has Chalice @ 1 and Leyline the play (the second Chalice this game). He's resolved a couple Devastating Dreams and has my on Loam-Wastelock after his dreams took out my only Island. I finally draw another mana source (petal) to go with my fetch and my situation is this:
In Play: SDT, Delta in play
In Hand: Cabal Rit, Cabal Rit, LED, Doomsday, Petal in hand
Life: 15
vs
Opp:
In Play: several lands including Wasteland, Tarmogoyf (4/5 I think)
In hand: 1 or 2 cards
Life: 18
What I did:
crack fetch, petal, Cabal Rit, Doomsday for LED, Meditate, LED, LED, Burning wish, play LED (which was the mistake), pass the turn. If I don't play LED, this happens next turn (assuming he doesn't mise Chalice #3 and drop it at 0):
draw LED #2. Play LED, LED break both for RRRUUU. Draw Meditate with SDT, cast it floating RRR (storm 3) to draw SDT, LED, LED, Wish. Play SDT into Chalice (storm 4), LED, LED, Burning Wish breaking LEDs for RRRBBB (storm 7) to find the Burning Wish that I sided out (I always side out Burning wish vs non-blue for just this type of situation), play Burning Wish #2 (storm 8) for Tendrils of Agony. Play lethal Tendrils of Agony.
Instead, I play LED like a total n00b and I am rewarded by dropping into the scrub (x-2) bracket where I get to smash the geddon stax players who don't mull properly. My other loss was to Tim Hunt (UGB CB with Stifle/Waste) when I didn't see another mana source (stuck on Island with Xantid Swarm (played off Petal) and SDT #1 in play) in game 3 for approximately 15 turns so I couldn't kill him when he made the huge play mistake of letting the enablers to Doomsday resolve through CB/top (he had 1s on top of his deck for my SDT and I don't think he could have countered Doomsday with a 3 plus his actual hand was irrelevant due to Swarm). Had I had any other mana source, my Doomsday stacks Tendrils on top of my deck and he loses that game for being curious as to whether i could win without resolving a ritual effect. (As was, I had to build Meditate, LED, LED, Petal, Tendrils and hope he didn't want to start playing with his CB (which he did when I went to replay my SDT.)
As far as I know, I was the only storm player even near the top all day. Jaco was in it early with ANT, but he was vanquished by the same Aggro Loam player as I after he spent several turns not finding a a black spell or a land with SDT in his UB storm deck. There was quite a bit of Merfolk, not much actual Thresh, no Zoo at all (like 3 in the top 40). I saw a ton of dredge and a ton of loam, although I only played against 1 loam player. Most of the combo players weren't very good (or were playing Belcher) and quickly found themselves in the 0-2 or 1-2 bracket.
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Been there, tried that, still casting Doomsday.
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Top 8:
2 Aggro Loam
2 43 Land
2 Merfolk
1 Zoo
1 Countertop with Natural Order
I count:
24 Wastelands
16 Goyfs (but Goyf was the third-tier threat in the Aggro Loam lists)
16 Life from the Loam
12 Force of Wills
11 Dazes
8 Dark Confidants
4 each of Tops, Counterbalances, Brainstorms
That looks like a pretty solid Top 8. I'm really surprised that there were only 4 Brainstorms, but that looks a pretty wide open Top 8. Does 43 Lands count as a control deck or a combo deck? Either way, 1 Pure Aggro deck, 5 Aggro-Control, and two combo/control/throw-lands-all-over-the-board decks.
Does anyone know how many total people played in the Legacy event? Looks like 64 tables for round one pairings...that makes 128 players? Did SCGs make money on this event? $5000 / 128 = $39 and change...so they probably lost money on this event (besides the sales on the side, but they also had to rent the venue).
Hopefully enough players show up for the next one to make them a load of money.
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Plus side events, if they had them. I assume they make money off them or else they wouldn't have announced a billion tournaments scheduled for 2010.
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Plus they make good money buying cards at 50% and selling them.
The Standard portion probably makes up for any loses they might have with Legacy. They had over 150 for that, right?
EDIT: 315 players in round one, so they made an absolute killing off of it.
EDIT 2: I'm counting 443 players on both days. That's 10,000/443 = 22.57, so they made money. The entry fee was $30, right?
What some seem to be missing about it is that what SCG is obviously trying to do right now is create a larger secondary market for the legacy staples. Especially since some of them can be hard to find, making their large stock more appealing. While the legacy event alone may have not balanced out, the future is bright for SCG's profits in legacy as prices soar when they hold so many high level events. They can basically take control of the format all by themselves, something they will never be able to do with something like standard or limited, and that puts a lot of power and potential profit in their hands.
I'm not complaining, I'm happy to have many more legacy events. They are obviously a business, and I'm glad that what they are seeking is also what I am seeking.
Yup, but it doesn't hurt them at all to make money off of the event as well. These events are great news for Legacy...unfortunately, stapes are now more expensive than ever. I guess I need to bite the bullet and buy more Underground Seas now instead of later.
InfoNinjas
Pat's been playing that deck for like 7000 years and posts on here sometimes (sarcasto). He basically doesn't ever lose in legacy.
SCG has posted a spreadsheet with players records and the decks they played. Although it lacks some important distinctions (e.g. Canadian Threshold and CounterTop appear both as "Threshold"; Team America appears as "BGU Control") it is still appreciated that someone took the time to put this info together.
UK Legacy community: www.magicplayers.co.uk
It is a mid-game deck.
For an in-depth discussion, read here:
http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/694.html
A direct quote from the article:
"Control decks focus on maintaining an"empty" board, then typically win in a short amount of time with highly evasive or large threats. A lot of people confuse Midgame decks with Control; the difference is that true Control does *not* allow permanents to reach the board."
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Their deck breakdown mentions 11 "Threshold", 3 "Countertop", 5 "Countertop Beatdown" and 1 "Countertop Order", so "Threshold" is probably only counting Canadian Threshold type of decks.
Most popular archetype type was Dredge (15 players)!
You're right, i missed those.
The number of Armageddon Stax players also seems quite high (eight).
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