yes, but you cannot always garantee a fetch to green mana
so your argument is that bloodghast is better when you have 1 of 2 polluted deltas and not one of the 8 green fetches?
The use of Arbor is easier to play due to the 8 fetches, while Ghast needs a 2nd Entomb or Study if in hand. What Ghast does allow is; not exposing you mana to Wasteland by fetching a land that will not produce the turn you fetch and making daze worse, Not having to sac a land drop early, a better attacker and recurrs to be sac'd with each land that hits the table.Originally Posted by RexFTW
LSV's list that T8 at SCG 5k
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=33309
Maindeck:
Artifact Creatures
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Sphinx Of The Steel Wind
Creatures
1 Blazing Archon
1 Terastodon
Instants
4 Brainstorm
1 Coffin Purge
4 Daze
1 Echoing Truth
4 Entomb
4 Force Of Will
4 Mystical Tutor
Legendary Creatures
2 Iona, Shield Of Emeria
Sorceries
4 Careful Study
4 Exhume
4 Reanimate
3 Thoughtseize
Basic Lands
1 Island
2 Swamp
Lands
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
4 Underground Sea
4 Verdant Catacombs
Sideboard:
4 Pithing Needle
1 Bloodghast
1 Realm Razer
1 Animate Dead
1 Coffin Purge
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Wipe Away
1 Sadistic Sacrament
1 Show And Tell
1 Thoughtseize
1 Dryad Arbor
What's the Coffin Purge for? Preventing your opponent from getting something back with Exhume and being randomly useful?
Is Dryad Arbors purpose serving as an fetchable out against edict effects postboard?
When is Bloodghast needed? Looks like danger of cool things to me. Could think about bringing one in against combo and taking the control role in this matchup while beating down with a bloodghast and a Dryad Arbor.
Coffin Purge is randomly useful in the mirror, against loam decks, might screw a Iggy loop and of course helps against Dredge.
The use of Dryad Arbor and Bloodghast is discussed right on this page...
Why does it seem like most Reanimator decks play 2 Iona?
Iona is the 1st target in majority of matches and having more of a chance to be able to dump her off Study.
I even play 3 iona, but that doesn't say she's my number one target.
If I would play with ponder instead of petals and take more time to set-up the ideal target.
iona wouldn't be choses that often.
If you look at which targets is best first turn, iona for sure.
Obvious reason of easier drawing into Iona and dumping her through study has already been mentioned, but having 2 Iona's is also great when you're fighting hate with exhume and entomb (dump first iona, play exhume, opponent activates crypt/relic/something - afterwards you cast entomb fetching your 2nd iona while exhume is still on stack)
Currently i'm playing the following list, very similar to LSV's one, just minor changes to the sb due to italian meta... full of zoo/bant where perish shines...
MAIN:
2 iona
1 sphinx
1 leviathan
1 archon
1 terastodon
4 mystical
4 brain
4 careful
4 entomb
4 exhume
4 reanimate
4 force
4 daze
3 thougtseize
1 echoing truth
1 show & tell
2 delta
4 misty
4 verdant
4 underground
2 swamp
1 island
SB:
1 wipe away -> CB decks
1 thoughtseize -> CB decks / ANT / mirror / random combo decks
1 hurkylls recall -> random artifact / stax /prison deck
1 mindbreak trap -> ANT
1 sadistic sacrament -> ANT / mirror / dredge
1 coffin purge -> mirror / loam / dredge / Survival
1 ravenous trap -> dredge / loam / stax / survival
1 perish -> Zoo / Bant / Eva / Rock
1 diabolic edict -> Mirror / Zoo / Bant / Eva / Rock
1 bloodghast -> Mirror / Eva / prison decks (it's cool to have a bloodghast in the yard when the oppenent casts smokestack :p )
1 dryad arbor -> Mirror / Eva
4 pithing needle -> vs Everything that can hurt our GY
Managed to win a small tourney the last week and generally steamrolling more or less everything around during tests since the italian meta isn't really prepared to fight reanimator due to the fact that nearly noone plays this deck here :p
Tho alot of times i feel like i'm sideboarding wrong...
The point is that in every g2 i found myself trying to find space to fit the 4 needles + those 2/3 specific cards that i need in that particular matchup...
My SB plan Vs the most of decks is :
-1 creature : the most useless in that specific matchup (for example vs ANT & landstill we can easily punt out the Archon...)
-2 careful study : postboard i feel like it's too risky to start with careful dumping a creature in the yard, also since we are removing a creature we have less chances to have it in hand ready to get discarded.
-1 exhume : in g2 we have to pay a bit more attention to our gy so by the time we secure our graveyard we will get one of the reanimation effect in hand even if we play 6/7 of them instead of 8...
-1 reanimate : read exhume...
-1 ???? : here i really don't know what to cut :/
Of course there are exceptions like ZOO, where we would side out the thoughtsizes instead of the studies since we prefer speed and we don't want to loose much life...
Am i doing it wrong or not :(?
Thanks in advance.
I'm having similar problems with sideboard games. One card I've been cutting is Daze since all of my sb games go longer the maindeck games, so they'll have more lands to pay for with daze. It might be a play/draw card but I doubt it. I've done most of my testing vs Dreadstill and New Horizon, both of which have been taking me down during SB games. Also I found that Pithing Needle was rather lack luster. I agree with cutting the reanimation spells since g2-3 take way longer.
It appears a 'welcome to the DTBForum' is in order. I assume it won't appear as crazy to people that I've been packing 6x GY-hate cards in the sideboards of several decks I play.
peace,
4eak
Finally, this was long overdue. Now move in the other recent top finishers, New Horizons and 43 Lands, and we have a sensible DTB list again. Three cheers for forum maintainance!
Shouldn't Canadian ***** be out of DTB section due to decline?
Canadian still is a consistent t8 contender, with recent results to back it up.
New Horizons is a new deck, like reanimator was after the unbanning. Give it time.
Lands imo will never be a DTB, for various reasons.
I am all for saying no to scurvy. But i am going to have to say no to you. Just doing a quick count on deckcheck(cos im lazy,but right) results in 17 ***** lists since March, in contrast Animator is at 40.... Now take into account all the reports from sites in the world including this one and the SCG 5ks(deckcheck does not get every result evar!), I would bet that this gap is not made any closer. In fact i think it would increase..
Edit: personaly i don't care where you hold this thread, animator is a deck to plan against.
I don't know why you come off so emotionally invested. I never said anything about Reanimator.
The Canadian thread is no longer in the DTB section: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?13715-[DTB]-Tempo-Thresh
Thanks for the greeting. Regarding the six GY hate, makes total sence, the first deck I made for legacy was Psychatog about three weeks ago (I'm a new player to the format, read about it for ages) with three main deck bojuka bogs! Let me tell you, Bog + Tog > Goyf.
I'm not happy with pithing needle for a lot of reasons and was wondering how stifle would do against bog, crypt, relic, etc etc etc. Strictly compared to pithing needle of course.
Welcome to the Source and to Legacy, but, how does any of that apply to U/B Reanimator? I guess Bojuka Bog is ok but... doesn't sound like you have any consistent way to find it. Tog decks haven't performed well in a long, long time. Ah, the old days...
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