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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Yes.

  2. #342
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Sorry to double post but...

    How do you guys feel about Sadistic Sacrament as a one of Burning Wish target? What is it generally used against? I'm considering it.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    I have used Burning Wish to some decent success against Saito style builds primarily although I have had moderate success with it against Reanimator by ripping out Ioona's and another random threat. It can also be used to rip out a Progenitus or Emrakul (if the shelldock deck catches on)

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    I've been running a sad sac in my NLS build as there are a few people playing saito's list in my meta. It's pretty good.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Is someone still playing this deck, other than BC?
    I might restart to play it, just because I'm getting bored from ANT's exessively linear way of plays,and the occasional slowness of Doomsday.

    Bryant, have you tested the matchup against NO Bant? How did it go? I feel the only way to win fastly, Etw, can be eaten very easily by a single RWM. Also, post board Spell Pierces and Gaddock are serious threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piceli89 View Post
    Is someone still playing this deck, other than BC?
    I might restart to play it, just because I'm getting bored from ANT's exessively linear way of plays,and the occasional slowness of Doomsday.

    Bryant, have you tested the matchup against NO Bant? How did it go? I feel the only way to win fastly, Etw, can be eaten very easily by a single RWM. Also, post board Spell Pierces and Gaddock are serious threats.
    Yes. It ended up being 60-40 their favor with a tough list. Counterbalance maindeck and Teeg sideboard was too much for me post board. I could always deal with one but the other one got me. Game one's were much more favorable. The Empty the Warrens really stole the show whenever I played it seeing as they had no outs.

    Right now I'm trying something new with my list, I'll let people know how it goes afterward. It's nothing revolutionary, just something I want to try.

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    Liking the new build. However, I'm having some trouble versus Merfolk. Could you tell what is your sideboard plan?
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  9. #349
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    +2 pyroblast, -2 mystical.

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    how are the two pyroblasts working for you bryant? it doesn't seem like you blasted too much from your tournament report except for the brainstorm.


    another random question: Can someone please tell me how diminishing returns is good. It seems to screw me over more often then not. I think I've won 1 game out of 15 on the turn it resolves. Usually I just refill my opponent's hands. It does seem like an "oh shit button."

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    They've been fine. I guess you could replace thoughtseize of you wanted a third to board in. However, I'm fine with the two.

    Bad beats dude. It's always been good for me. If you would like to cut it go ahead, but the card is very good. Better than recurring insight.

  12. #352

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    Diminishing Returns is significantly better if you haven't played your land for the turn and you have say 2 mana floating...it isn't very good if you're going all in tapped out into it.

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    Hai, I've been reading about T.E.S back in 2007, had a break from the game since than. Got hooked again few weeks ago, anyway sample hand:

    On the play, G1:
    Land, Infernal Tutor, Infernal Tutor, LED, Brainstorm, Dark Ritual, Ad Nauseam.

    I'd keep it - Land go, Brainstorm EOT (Land, Land, Duress) put Ad Nauseam and Land on top. Draw Land, play Land, Ritual, Tutor showing LED, B floating, LED, LED, tap Land for B, Tutor (for Ad Nauseam), saccing LEDs in response. Too bad if I see a FoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redferne View Post
    Hai, I've been reading about T.E.S back in 2007, had a break from the game since than. Got hooked again few weeks ago, anyway sample hand:

    On the play, G1:
    Land, Infernal Tutor, Infernal Tutor, LED, Brainstorm, Dark Ritual, Ad Nauseam.

    I'd keep it - Land go, Brainstorm EOT (Land, Land, Duress) put Ad Nauseam and Land on top. Draw Land, play Land, Ritual, Tutor showing LED, B floating, LED, LED, tap Land for B, Tutor (for Ad Nauseam), saccing LEDs in response. Too bad if I see a FoW.
    I don't know what you're looking for here.

    I also think you played it wrong. If you're playing versus islands. I say keep the lands and draw through the brainstorm. Duress, Pass. On the endstep that you have 3 lands. Ritual, Nauseam. If they counter. Untap, and try to win with your 2x Infernals and Led.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Cook View Post
    They've been fine. I guess you could replace thoughtseize of you wanted a third to board in. However, I'm fine with the two.

    Bad beats dude. It's always been good for me. If you would like to cut it go ahead, but the card is very good. Better than recurring insight.
    hmm.. maybe I'm playing it aroung. I usually made my land drop already or I don't have mana floating.. but when would I choose to go diminishing returns over ad nauseum/empty the warren? I feel that I'd usually go ad nauseum if I have enough mana, and empty the warren if I don't have enough storm.. so I don't really feel that diminishing returns is necessary. Sometimes I don't even get a tutor; it'd be all safety or all mana.. or mystical tutor without cantrips. doesn't that get annoying?

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    Bryant Cook
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    What do we play now that Mystical Tutor is banned? Do we wait for the new Serum Visions?

    U
    Sorcery
    Scry 2
    Draw a card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Cook View Post
    What do we play now that Mystical Tutor is banned? Do we wait for the new Serum Visions?

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    Scry 2
    Draw a card
    You don't do anything, because you side out Mystical Tutor in all of your matchups anyway, amirite?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    You don't do anything, because you side out Mystical Tutor in all of your matchups anyway, amirite?!
    URITE!

    I have a couple options...

    1.) Make them cantrips (Serum Visions, M11 better visions, Slight of Hand [I already have jap foils!]).
    2.) Move the sideboard Infernal Tutor maindeck, add in the 4th Chant effect).
    3.) Make them proection spells (Thoughtsieze/Chant).
    4.) Cry and scream that the sky is falling.

  19. #359

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    Do you want to move the 4th tutor back? It seems like it has more value as a wish target for storm chains. I'd go with 1 or 3. And I'm definitely going with 4.

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    I've always been curious.

    What's the reasoning behind not running doomsday?

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