[Burn variant]Kindling Pyro

[Darkenslight]

Considering the text of Pyromancer's Ascension, and its ability to copy spells, and combining it with Pyromancer's Swath (as int the Dragonstorm deck from Standard/Extended), I wondered about the possibility of these cards working in tandem with Kindle and Flame Burst. After all, there's nothing like taking an opponent from 20 to 0 with your starting 7.

A starting decklist:

12 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid Mesa

4 Pyromancer's Ascension
4 Pyromancer's Swath
2 Ensnaring Bridge

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Starstorm
4 Kindle
4 Flame Burst
4 Incinerate
4 Gamble
2 Sonic Burst
4 Magma Jet

Sideboard

4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Everlastingl Torment
3 Faerie Macabre

Card Choices:

Pyromancer's Ascension/Pyromancer's Swath: Well, these are the backbone of the deck, y'know. :) Mostly, because each card not named Starstorm does a minimum of 2 damage, Swath adds 2 more damage, but you discard your hand at the end of each turn. Ascension copies each spell once it has two counters. This means that each spell will do a MINIMUM of 8 damage once the Ascension is active.

Manabase: Simple, and effective.

Gamble/Sonic Burst: Both make you discard a card. I appreciate the weakness of the random part of the discard. This, however, tries to play into the Ascension's Quest trigger.

Ensnaring Bridge as a 2-of main: mostly to help with the Amazing Emmy and Sons Ltd.

Grave-hate in the board: I feel that this is the best suite of hate at the current time.

Possible additions/alternatives:

Bloodchief's Ascension: Because it triggers off almost every single spell in the deck, it seems like a viable alternative to its Redder Fork-ing cousin.

Dark Confidant: Because it's Bob. Also, your curve works out at about 1.08 life per toss.

A discard/counter suite: Protection from Broken.

Burning Inquiry: It says 'Draw 3'. Also lulzy with ...

Fiery Temper: Another possible burn spell, with MADNESS!

Sample Hands:

Mountain, Swath, Ascension, Bolt, Bolt, Mesa, Mountain - Decent but not great. Probably a keeper against not combo.

Mountain, Mountain, Mountain, Starstorm, Bridge, Sonic, Sonic - Mulligan to -> Mountain, Mesa, 3*Bolt, Ascension - Wow. Seems strong.

Mesa, Bolt, Flame Burst, Tarn, 2*Gamble, Flame Burst - ...Yeah. That's just....ouch.

Comments critiques are appreciated. Please remember to leave your brain at the door. :p

[Jeff Kruchkow]

Incinerate seems worse than Rift bolt or Chain Lightning

[Darkenslight]

Incinerate seems worse than Rift bolt or Chain Lightning

/facepalm

Derf. Knew I was missing something. Clean forgot about them. Incinerate seems very subpar now.

[Jeff Kruchkow]

also, add blue. intuition and AK seems super good here.

[dahcmai]

I'm not sold on Starstorm at all. Rolling Earthquake is obviously the best choice for that spot, but it's also hard to get. Earthquake seems like a better fit than Starstorm though. At least there's not much that flies that really gets past burn anyway. Tombstalker is about the only one I know of that you might begin to worry about.

I don't get the purpose of Gamble in here. Fetch up Ascensions? Not much of a use really past that. I honestly think the above post has a better plan in going with Intuition and AK's. Intuition for AK alone is pretty sexy. If you play with Intuitions, you could then use Demigod of Revenge in the board for a nasty surprise against control decks.

Going with blue gives a much needed out against things like Chalice of the Void set @1, Leyline of Sanctity, Solitary Confinement, COP Red, and other such red hate.

Chain Lightning seems like a must.

Lastly, Sonic Burst is plain yuk. I've never liked that card and I played standard during Tempest. It wasn't even good in block as far as I remember. Even Flame Rift tops that card.

[Darkenslight]

Gamble was mainly in there as a tutor effect, with a pretty common bonus, but I see the point abou8t it being too inconsistent.

Thanks for the input. I'll concoct a decklist right away utilising Blue.

Tentative changes:

-4 Gamble
-2 Sonic Burst
-4 Incinerate
-4 Mountain

+2 Island
+2 Volcanic Island
+2 Intuition
+4 AK
+4 Chain Lightning

Possible future changes: Rushing River, Chain of Vapor, Propaganda

Decklist v. 1.0.1

8 Mountain
2 Island
2 Volcanic Island
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid Mesa

4 Pyromancer's Ascension
4 Pyromancer's Swath
2 Ensnaring Bridge

4 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Starstorm
4 Kindle
4 Flame Burst
4 Incinerate
4 Accumulated Knowledge
2 Intuition
4 Magma Jet

Sideboard

4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Everlastingl Torment
3 Faerie Macabre

[SpikeyMikey]

Any reason you're not packing the 3rd bridge so you can Intuition for them?

[Darkenslight]

Any reason you're not packing the 3rd bridge so you can Intuition for them?

Not at the moment. Goldfishing the Intuitions makes the deck hum though. I'll be looking at alternate methods of draw insted of the Starstorm (which is there as a backup stall, so right now, I EoT Int for Starstorm*2+Bridge).

Most likely, the next change will be -4 Starstorm, +1 Bridge, +3 some draw spell.

[perm]

Have you considered oath of scholars? +3 draw for you every turn.

[Darkenslight]

Have you considered oath of scholars? +3 draw for you every turn.

I like the Blur Oath, but my main issue with it is that it doesn't come online until turn 5, by which time I hope to have won the game. I see how it helps the long-game plan, though. I'll consider it

[slaughtercult]

Would Grafted Skullcap be too slow?

also Price Of Progress could be well utilized in the mono red build sideboard.

[perm]

blue oath is functionally better than skullcap in almost every situation

[Darkenslight]

Hmm....Gathering, I found Jalum Tome, which seems weak, apart form the parts when it plays into your gameplan. :)

EDIT: alternatively, there's Mindstorm Crown, which does sillies for no mana outside the initial outlay.

[perm]

both of those cards are horrible, why wouldn't you just use oath of scholars?

[Malloot]

The reason to play a burn deck like this seems abit strange to me, its not faster than a normal burn deck and seems less stable as well, casting an enchantment in a burn deck is like playing a time walk for your opponent. The only way this could be good is if you make your midgame so mutch better than a normal burn deck to make it worth it.
with all these 2+ colorless mana enchantments and artifacts it seems weird to me to not make use of that in a different way

4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Pyromancer's Swath
4 chalice of the void
4 oath of scholars altho im not sure of these..
an assortment of these burn spells http://magiccards.info/query?q=o:dea...v=card&s=cname
best of those seem
Char
Flames of the Blood Hand
Ghostfire
Rift Bolt
Staggershock
Puncture Blast
Psionic Blast...:)
4 City of traitors
4 ancient tomb
Volcanic island
U/R fetchland
mountain

Just a quick idea i had. Seems like it has some pro's over other burn but will be allot less stable