[Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

[ninja_attack]

I posted this a page or two back, but I would really like some help with a SB for Indianapolis, should Xantid Swarm come back in for merfolk?

For reference, I am using Bryant's list and SB

[lorddotm]

I posted this a page or two back, but I would really like some help with a SB for Indianapolis, should Xantid Swarm come back in for merfolk?

For reference, I am using Bryant's list and SB

For the record, we aren't your brain.

If you feel Merfolk is more of a threat than CB, then go for Xantids, if you don't feel that way, then you don't need Xantid.

You know what is good when, it is up to you to make the decision since you are the one with the choice.

[emidln]

If I were playing something other than Doomsday at Indy, this is the list I'd run (and will be giving to two others):

1 Tendrils of Agony
3 Ad Nauseam
3 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Duress
2 Thoughtseize
4 Lotus Petal
4 Chrome Mox
1 Mox Diamond
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Snow-covered Island
1 Snow-covered Swamp

SB: 1 Tendrils of Agony
SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
SB: 1 Grapeshot
SB: 1 Infernal Tutor
SB: 1 Ill-Gotten Gains
SB: 1 Diminishing Returns
SB: 1 Pulverize
SB: 4 Chain of Vapor
SB: 2 Thoughtseize
SB: 1 Pact of Negation
SB: 1 Hurkyl's Recall

My merfolk plan is -4 Ponder, +2 Thoughtseize, +1 Pact of Negation, +1 Infernal Tutor.

I've been running it through a small guantlet to impressive results, and if I wasn't being lured away by the promise of Doomsday, Force of Will, and Sensei's Divining Top, I'd be playing it.

[Doomsday]

The Mox Diamond made me throw up in my mouth a little bit, but glad to see that someone else likes 3 IT main and 1 side.

[lorddotm]

The Mox Diamond made me throw up in my mouth a little bit, but glad to see that someone else likes 3 IT main and 1 side.

The IT split is just sooooo much worse. You lower the chance of drawing IT by about 8%. That means you are 8% less likely to get there. That is a lot over an entire tournament.

You need to learn to trust your win cons. Empty the Warrens might seem loose, but it gets there very often, same with Diminishing Returns. I've actually only lost once with Empty and once with Diminishing Returns.

[Doomsday]

The IT split is just sooooo much worse. You lower the chance of drawing IT by about 8%. That means you are 8% less likely to get there. That is a lot over an entire tournament.

You need to learn to trust your win cons. Empty the Warrens might seem loose, but it gets there very often, same with Diminishing Returns. I've actually only lost once with Empty and once with Diminishing Returns.

It's a trade-off. Sure you have 1 less tutor maindeck, but now all 7 of those tutors actually win the game on their own instead of hoping that DR or EtW get there.

[ninja_attack]

For the record, we aren't your brain.

If you feel Merfolk is more of a threat than CB, then go for Xantids, if you don't feel that way, then you don't need Xantid.

You know what is good when, it is up to you to make the decision since you are the one with the choice.

I was merely asking for advice, I understand it is my choice, but I was just trying to help fellow T.E.S. players prepare for Indy, My statement also had an underlying question of what to expect at the tournament. My goal is to help put up more good results for this deck. I apologize for seeking opinions.

[Bryant Cook]

Just play my list and win, it's as simple as that.

[lorddotm]

I was merely asking for advice, I understand it is my choice, but I was just trying to help fellow T.E.S. players prepare for Indy, My statement also had an underlying question of what to expect at the tournament. My goal is to help put up more good results for this deck. I apologize for seeking opinions.

I'm not attacking you.

It just seems like a lot of people in this thread refuse to think for themselves.

The decks you should probably expect are the following. Merfolk, Goblins, Counterbalance. Beyond that, its all fair game. Considering a lot of CB decks get wrecked by Merfolk and Goblins, at the top tables I would expect more of those, so plan accordingly.

[Julian23]

Been playing your list for some weeks on MODO by now and according to my Excel sheet, quite successful. Still, Wasteland is sometimes such a pain in the ass with this deck :-(.

[lorddotm]

Been playing your list for some weeks on MODO by now and according to my Excel sheet, quite successful. Still, Wasteland is sometimes such a pain in the ass with this deck :-(.

Hold fetches in play. You usually don't need to worry about Stifle these days, except against New Horizons.

[Julian23]

Yeah, but against decks like Merfolk or Goblins you need to cast your Ponders early in order to set up a fast win. Don't get me wrong, I win each and every game 1 against Goblin but there's this guy that's got 4 of each Duress, Therapy and Mindbreak Trap in the board. This, along with t1 Lackey into t2 Wasteland+Therapy is really hurting me bad.

[lorddotm]

Yeah, but against decks like Merfolk or Goblins you need to cast your Ponders early in order to set up a fast win. Don't get me wrong, I win each and every game 1 against Goblin but there's this guy that's got 4 of each Duress, Therapy and Mindbreak Trap in the board. This, along with t1 Lackey into t2 Wasteland+Therapy is really hurting me bad.

The plus side about that guy is that he won't usually get past other decks. Green and Taxes would destroy him.

Isn't there no Port online?

[naarou]

Yeah it's not online yet.

Julian...PDiddy isn't human. I've played him probably 10+ times and he beats up on me every single time regardless of his deck. Thresh, Goblins, Zoo, doesn't matter. He always plays at least 6-8 slots in the board devoted to storm, and his main decks usually have some combo interaction if not blue.

Some would argue that killing me turn 3 three times WITH GOBLINS over 30 minutes with mindbreak backup would qualify as a statistical anomaly, but he managed to do it.

[emidln]

The IT split is just sooooo much worse. You lower the chance of drawing IT by about 8%. That means you are 8% less likely to get there. That is a lot over an entire tournament.

You need to learn to trust your win cons. Empty the Warrens might seem loose, but it gets there very often, same with Diminishing Returns. I've actually only lost once with Empty and once with Diminishing Returns.

Ad Nauseam in hand wins more often than Infernal Tutor in hand. Your math is misleading for a list that replaces an IT with an AdN.

Mox Diamond is fine if the problem you're solving is extra free initial mana sources. It might only be amazing after AdN, but that's all I'm looking for.

[menace13]

Yeah it's not online yet.

Julian...PDiddy isn't human. I've played him probably 10+ times and he beats up on me every single time regardless of his deck. Thresh, Goblins, Zoo, doesn't matter. He always plays at least 6-8 slots in the board devoted to storm, and his main decks usually have some combo interaction if not blue.

Some would argue that killing me turn 3 three times WITH GOBLINS over 30 minutes with mindbreak backup would qualify as a statistical anomaly, but he managed to do it.

Pdiddy has been playing Team America in the Dailies lately. That Goblin list must be from 2mans as it hasn't placed yet. Storm-Both TES and ANT- are placing more often with 5 in the past week.

[Zach Tartell]

it was with a silence.

Drinking does not help naming correct cards.

Spellcheck helps typing.

ps - go phillies

The Mets signed my boy Robert Allen for a 2 year contract at 7.8 million dollars.

[Nocco]

I just Grapeshoted someone for 22 after boarding out ETW, having my tendrils exiled with Diminishing Returns, and not having enough mana for a wished tendrils.

Jizzed. In. My. Pants.

[lorddotm]

I just Grapeshoted someone for 22 after boarding out ETW, having my tendrils exiled with Diminishing Returns, and not having enough mana for a wished tendrils.

Jizzed. In. My. Pants.

Why did you board out ETW?

[Nocco]

Why did you board out ETW?

I was playing against Affinity, so I made the swap with IGG.