Could Ross maybe post what he would do if he didn't have Vengevines for the transformational sideboard?
Thanks
mm isn't that bad, people could cut nettle sentinel if they're scared of MM
So you're advocating cutting out the combo? Sounds dumb. Either way, Mental Misstep makes us play 7-8 lords, as opposed to the usual infinate 1 drop strategy. It doesn't harm us too much and only makes us slightly slower.Originally Posted by Rainbow Maker
No he's being snarktastic. NihilObstat described a way to play around MM, or just ignore it. It doesn't and shouldn't effect the deck too much if you're paying attention.
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I've been playing this deck for awhile and I'm getting pretty tired of losing to Team America style decks. I feel like I have a chance against most other archetypes but against TA I feel like I'd rather concede and take a 50 minute nap or something.
My question: are the Living Wish builds and Vengevine/Buried Alive SB builds mutually exclusive? I don't recall seeing anybody post a list that uses both engines. I've been trying to find a way to utilize both but I feel like I'm trying to do too much here, especially in regards to SB space. I really like the versatility of the Wish builds with the wincons and silverbullets in the SB and all that but is it worth it to run with Wishes if I only have 3-5 SB cards to snag with them? Perhaps I'm being greedy and need to accept my fate against TA style decks?
vs TA - Buried Alive + Vengevines its way to win
I was thinking about just that the other day.
You should realize that a "regular" side for those archetypes would be:
Venge:
3-4x Vengevine
4x Buried Alive / Intuition
Wish:
1x Gaea's 1x Wincon 1x Masticore 1x Sylvok Replica 1x Regal Force 1x Joraga Warcaller 1x Vexing Shusher
Together = 14-15 cards
We would be left with no Krosan Grip (Very Important Postboard), Combo, or Gravehate sideboard options. We could also run Faerie Macabre and Glowrider or Gaddock Teeg though.
So I think it would depend on the Metagame. If you see that T.A. is Very big in your area, maybe it would be the best a Venge+Wish sideboard, but in my Krosan Grips are needed.
I will test the double sideboard list though, and post results when I have time ;)
Yeah. I guess it's pretty meta dependent. I had never thought of that. Right now I hardly see any combo around so I don't feel the need to toss in any Thorn of Amethysts and Dredge/Reanimator isn't a huge concern either, but I was thinking more about how to prepare for an SCG open. There is going to be one in my area in a month or so and who knows what I will have to battle through. Maybe I'm being overly ambitious in thinking I can prepare a sideboard for everything.
Is it even worth it to use up 4 SB slots against combo? Is Thorn of Amethyst really that helpful? Or should we just accept that matchup as unwinnable and hope for goddraws? I haven't had to play against combo very often and when I do see them I typically just toss some bad karma their way and hope they get terrible hands so I can race them.
Anyways, I'll try to get my hands on some Vengevines and see what I can work out.
What's your usual plan to side out for 4 Vengevines and 3 Inuts ina GSZ build?
I wasn't being sarcastic. I'm a conservative player. Nettle is only good with heritage Druid. Therefore, I don't run it
OMG!!! Good luck with that ;)
I know you people are being facetious and rather d-bags, but it's to be expected, you people are the people that thought goyf was a crap rare and jace was a bad card... Ultimately I DO have a better long game because I don't get so easily blown out by not having a glimpse resolve or being boned by an ee. The sacrifice is t2 kills are uncommon, it still will combo turn 3 with foldfishing, but then again, playing solitary doesn't count for much.
What do you mean, "You people"?
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I was responding to pik and nihil and their comments that accomplished nothing, they came off as elitist jerks
Nettle Sentinel is not only good with Heritage Druid. Its good with Birchlore Rangers, and its your biggest dude when you switch to the aggro plan. Either way, it is easily one of the neccessary cards in the deck due to it being part of the main engine [Heritage Druid/Birchlore Rangers + Nettle Sentinel] and it being useful in the aggro side.
However being a 1/1 or a 2/2
Means that you will have an inherent problem with aggro. I run a list with in essence 8 lords, 4 archdruids, 3 warcaller, and 1 of the forestwalk person can't think of it's name. So my aggro plan is already pretty strong and will so many lords I don't see sentinel being that "big." I realize my list is slower, I don't run pacts, I run a play set of gsz. The heritage druid plan still works, it works perfectly fine.
Also birchlore is usually only a 1 of
The best plan against Mental Misstep is GSZ for 2 for your one drops. One idea i've been toying with for resiliency against the blue decks is running 3-4 cloudstone curios as an alternate draw engine so I don't have to resolve a glimpse, cutting quiron rangers, and putting a much larger emphasis on elvish visionary.
Relying on Visionary seems weak. I'd rather just throw in some Messengers if you need aw ay to refill your hand.
For my confessions, they burned me with fire/
And found I was for endurance made
Turn on SCG live or just watch the match after the tournament.. Round 5. Double glimpse, tap three elves, draw two cards, nettle untaps, then he casts spirit guide, draws two again and ships the turn back while he still has an active quirion ranger. And other player doesn't cabal therapy three glimpses after gitiaxian probe milling two narcomoeabas.. seriously, what the hell :D
well... I watched that match and it made it seem as though tabletop magic was competitive. They were both playing horribly, also, the dredge deck wasn't conventional and seemed pretty bad.
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